the embedding of reporters

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[align=justify]My name is Samantha Watson and I am an honours year student at the Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen. My dissertation concerns the embedding of journalists within the British Army during the Iraq War. I aim to write it from a military point of view as I feel little has been done to research how soldiers feel about this progression of war time reporting. I would be very grateful if ARRSE members who served in Iraq during the recent conflict would take the time to complete the attached questionnaire. It will only take ten to fifteen minutes of your time.

The aim of this survey is to try and understand how you felt having reporters alongside you on operations and whether, from your point of view having serving in Iraq, this helped or hindered the general public�s understanding of what the British Forces were doing in Iraq. The administration team at ARRSE have agreed to my request to seek you help and anything you say will be anonymous and treated in confidence. It will only be viewed by myself and used in my academic studies.

Participants can return them to me by email (0613265@rgu.ac.uk) or by private message through ARRSE.[/align]
 

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Samantha

A survey about journo's
You're timing is impeccable!!

Good luck with your course.
 
#3
Journos are not flavour of the month at the moment, especially after Robyn Foyster's leak in "New Idea".

Embedding in concrete flyovers will go down very well ;-)

Good luck with your work.
 

oldbaldy

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Murphy_Slaw said:
oldbaldy said:
Murphy_Slaw said:
Samantha

A survey about journo's
You're timing is impeccable!!

Good luck with your course.
She had asked before:
http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=89539.html
Maybe she was privvy to the Harry in the 'stan information, before it broke.
Tin foil hat on!
In that well known hotbed of information ABERDEEN!

That place has a lot to answer for, it's where I met Mrs Baldy, so perhaps it should get a good slagging. :)
 
#6
Samantha,

Why not ask the journalists how they thought they are/were perceived? Surely you can see by researching here exactly what many think of journalists - and that is not always negative, either.

Please don't expect people to fill in your questionnaire, they've probably got better things to do with their lives, and as I'm sure you will know, those who do bother to fill it in and send it are by definition self-selecting. So how accurate is that going to be? You have to do some basic research yourself. Easy enough - read the comments and then score them.

Good luck with your studies.
 

oldbaldy

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Someone likes Sam, she is now all sticky:
 
#8
Ah Sam, as you now know troopers are not the most sensitive of folk.
Black humor is part of their job a way of life and as others have said Jurno's are not flavour of the month.
john
Best of luck with your studies.
 
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The question has to be, by have so-called news reporters in the front line, how can the troops do thier job, without thinking "Will this land me in court, for doing the job I was trained for", as well as " The protection of said news reporter, takes away from the job WE are here to do"!

Do those in the news profession understand "The Squaddie" - NO!
 
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CharlieBubbles said:
The question has to be, by have so-called news reporters in the front line, how can the troops do thier job, without thinking "Will this land me in court, for doing the job I was trained for", as well as " The protection of said news reporter, takes away from the job WE are here to do"!

Do those in the news profession understand "The Squaddie" - NO!
From my POV pretty much the only decent, substantial and supportive reports have come from those journalists that got embedded. I can agree that it makes the job harder to have to look after a reporter. Wether it is worth the effort is debateable, I suppose it depends on wether you want the public to get the truth or not.
 
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Perturbed said:
CharlieBubbles said:
The question has to be, by have so-called news reporters in the front line, how can the troops do thier job, without thinking "Will this land me in court, for doing the job I was trained for", as well as " The protection of said news reporter, takes away from the job WE are here to do"!

Do those in the news profession understand "The Squaddie" - NO!
From my POV pretty much the only decent, substantial and supportive reports have come from those journalists that got embedded. I can agree that it makes the job harder to have to look after a reporter. Wether it is worth the effort is debateable, I suppose it depends on wether you want the public to get the truth or not.
Was the Panorma report from Monday the TRUTH?

If the media fully understood and the general population cared, perhaps much would change and for the better.
 
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CharlieBubbles said:
Perturbed said:
CharlieBubbles said:
The question has to be, by have so-called news reporters in the front line, how can the troops do thier job, without thinking "Will this land me in court, for doing the job I was trained for", as well as " The protection of said news reporter, takes away from the job WE are here to do"!

Do those in the news profession understand "The Squaddie" - NO!
From my POV pretty much the only decent, substantial and supportive reports have come from those journalists that got embedded. I can agree that it makes the job harder to have to look after a reporter. Wether it is worth the effort is debateable, I suppose it depends on wether you want the public to get the truth or not.
Was the Panorma report from Monday the TRUTH?

If the media fully understood and the general population cared, perhaps much would change and for the better.
Was the Panorama report embedded journalism?
 
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If it wasn't for the journo's , which started to embed on Herrick 4, then I think we would still be the forgotten band of brother's. Ross Kemp has propelled the soldier imaged through the roof, publicity you couldn't buy. We lived with the journ's on Herrick 4, they shared our room, initially we were all reluctent to talk to them, but because of our tour gripes, the public got on board and asked for better equipment for the serving including the 'OP Allowance'.
 
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It was a very selective use of film footage to tell the public here in the UK how British troops are abusing the ememy, in a perverse sort of way.

However, if there are no camera's there in the first instance, they would be no footage to be misused and unreprestertive of the REAL facts.

Good news does not sell papers or get the viewing figures up, however, they the media have a responsibility to tell the truth as it happens and not to suit a story.
 
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CharlieBubbles said:
It was a very selective use of film footage to tell the public here in the UK how British troops are abusing the ememy, in a perverse sort of way.

However, if there are no camera's there in the first instance, they would be no footage to be misused and unreprestertive of the REAL facts.

Good news does not sell papers or get the viewing figures up, however, they the media have a responsibility to tell the truth as it happens and not to suit a story.
Fair enough. But just about anything can be used for good or bad. I still contend that the embedded journalists have done more good for our troops than harm. I hope you are seperating between the embedded reports and the reports from the rest.
 
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blobmeister said:
If it wasn't for the journo's , which started to embed on Herrick 4, then I think we would still be the forgotten band of brother's. Ross Kemp has propelled the soldier imaged through the roof, publicity you couldn't buy. We lived with the journ's on Herrick 4, they shared our room, initially we were all reluctent to talk to them, but because of our tour gripes, the public got on board and asked for better equipment for the serving including the 'OP Allowance'.
Agreed.
 
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Perturbed said:
blobmeister said:
If it wasn't for the journo's , which started to embed on Herrick 4, then I think we would still be the forgotten band of brother's. Ross Kemp has propelled the soldier imaged through the roof, publicity you couldn't buy. We lived with the journ's on Herrick 4, they shared our room, initially we were all reluctent to talk to them, but because of our tour gripes, the public got on board and asked for better equipment for the serving including the 'OP Allowance'.
Agreed.
The Ross Kemp series was a plus for the troops, however, being on Sky limited the audience and therefore the impact to what are the issues of those in the front line?
 
#18
I hold micheal yon in very high regard, he was embedded with various british and american units, he went out there freelance, taking a big risk and it has paid off, with some of the best journalism of the Iraq war.

But then he was ex-US special forces so perhaps fitted in a lot better, and was trusted a lot more by the soldiers and officers who probably let him do more than they usually would and told him more than they usually would.
 
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mark1234 said:
I hold micheal yon in very high regard, he was embedded with various british and american units, he went out there freelance, taking a big risk and it has paid off, with some of the best journalism of the Iraq war.

But then he was ex-US special forces so perhaps fitted in a lot better, and was trusted a lot more by the soldiers and officers who probably let him do more than they usually would and told him more than they usually would.
http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/

He writes good articles. Can't find it atm but I read a story of his about embedded reporters and the common experience the overwhelming number of them had. That experience was surprise at the quality of the troops the bonding process and eventually taking pride in the servicemen. Wish I could find it as it was quite moving.
 
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Thanks to everyone who has replied to the forum. Hopefully i'll be able to use some of the comments as several of them make good points and prove some of my objectives are.

The Ross Kemp series will also feature in my report as I managed to get someone to record it, though I have not yet got the copy.

Also, if anyone saw on ITV news at 10 at the start if the week, there was a short segment on the troops in Afghanistan. The reporter had given some squaddies camrecorders so they could record their thoughts and experiences. I think think was a particularly effective way of demonstrating life on the front line, especially when they lost comrade Corporal Lawrence, as the soldiers used the cameras as a confession both almost.

And i'm glad my name causes some people so much amusment!
 

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