the dream has ended

#1
just a story to tell all those budding souls waiting to join.it involves my son who is nineteen he spent 2 years in the marine cadets and four years in the army cadets attended the 14 weeks army preparation course last august passed the barb test and interviews attended the two days selection at pirbright and passed that ,on the 5th of march he started the 14 week phase 1 training at pirbright he felt a bit home sick in the first few weeks but that passed.on easter monday yes easter monday of all days we had a one minute phone call from his commading officer who stated that my son was being sent home because they felt that he was not muture enough to join the army and defered him for four years.others are to be sent home this week also.so remember just because you pass the two day selection this means nothing in real terms my son is still not home but has handed all his gear in and is just bumming around till i beleave friday when he can come home he has just wasted years of this life.you could be next so beware
 
#5
That seems to be a bit odd, especially given his age and his previous commitment to it. There may be a deeper story to this that Mum should take a look at with her son on his return.
 
#6
Disapointing I know but in military terms he has years ahead of him! Keep him focused (If that is what he wants) and he should do well in future. I know a bloke who has a similar tale, he sank really low after he got home, so low that he joined my TA unit! Within 6 months he was at Brize on his way to a dust bowl, came back and is now in the regular army, enjoying it!
 
#7
christine said:
just a story to tell all those budding souls waiting to join.it involves my son who is nineteen he spent 2 years in the marine cadets and four years in the army cadets attended the 14 weeks army preparation course last august passed the barb test and interviews attended the two days selection at pirbright and passed that ,on the 5th of march he started the 14 week phase 1 training at pirbright he felt a bit home sick in the first few weeks but that passed.on easter monday yes easter monday of all days we had a one minute phone call from his commading officer who stated that my son was being sent home because they felt that he was not muture enough to join the army and defered him for four years.others are to be sent home this week also.so remember just because you pass the two day selection this means nothing in real terms my son is still not home but has handed all his gear in and is just bumming around till i beleave friday when he can come home he has just wasted years of this life.you could be next so beware
This sounds extremely strange.

Why (if this is correct) did they bother phoning you at all? If he is
nineteen, he is an adult soldier and as such should be able to tell his own mum why he's not in the Army any more.
 
#8
Christine,

Whislt this is disappointing for you and your boy it may well be the case that when you talk to him you'll come to agree that this might be the best result from his first go at basic training.

The training staff understand young men very well and also understand the unique and challenging environment that they are entering into. If they are suggesting that he'd benefit from not going into basic training immediately I'd suggest that he'd have a very bad time on the course possibly fail and be "damaged" from the experience.

Suggest to your boy that this isn't the end of the story and to take some time to think about what he wants.
 
#9
What were the Army supposed to do ? Send him out on tour unready and unprepared and get him killed as a result ? You'd be moaning a damn sight harder if that was the case.

Believe me, if the Army could work out exactly who'd pass out during two days of selection they would. Why spend money wasting someone's time if they don't have to ?

As for it being a "waste", that's up to him. If he does some soul searching, thinks on what went wrong and does something about the areas he fell short in then he'll gain a lot from it - even if he doesn't go back to the Army. If he just whines "it's not fair Mum" then he'll fail at being a civvy as well.
 
#11
futher to my story about my son when the commanding officer phoned he was under the impression that mark was under 18 he didnot know that he
was over eighteen does that tell it all.
 
#13
Ex cadets find basic training a lot harder than recruits with no previous experience,

The fact the training team find your son immature and not up to the standards required of service life may have something to do with the way you have been molly coddling him, even on this forum

christine said:
my son was due to go on the two days selection course on tuesday but it was cancelled due to the floods i would like information as to when it will start again will it be next week
christine said:
i am due to start phase one training on the 5th of march.easter falls on the 6th of april and the 9th.question will we be given time off to go home and will we be given a warrent card for free travel.
Let him crack on with a bit of traveling, shagging dirty birds all over the world and doing his own thing on his terms, then let him decide to re-join

We need soldiers with life experience, not 4 star cadet badges
 
#15
christine said:
just a story to tell all those budding souls waiting to join.it involves my son who is nineteen he spent 2 years in the marine cadets and four years in the army cadets attended the 14 weeks army preparation course last august passed the barb test and interviews attended the two days selection at pirbright and passed that ,on the 5th of march he started the 14 week phase 1 training at pirbright he felt a bit home sick in the first few weeks but that passed.on easter monday yes easter monday of all days we had a one minute phone call from his commading officer who stated that my son was being sent home because they felt that he was not muture enough to join the army and defered him for four years.others are to be sent home this week also.so remember just because you pass the two day selection this means nothing in real terms my son is still not home but has handed all his gear in and is just bumming around till i beleave friday when he can come home he has just wasted years of this life.you could be next so beware
I haven't heard of a discharge being handled in that way, even for an adult. Is someone winding you up? Or is your son being economical with the truth?

Litotes
 
#16
son busted for being either a fecking biff, a cry baby, failed a drug test or breaking law

had oppo phone in to flannel you, will be back scoffing your food, spending your cash and generally being a loser in no time
 
#17
Cant comment on the speculation as to the identity of the caller but:

If your son was kicked out of training, he wasnt good enough, end of chat.
Training establishments bend over backwards to make sure pass rates are high. If they say he is immature then take it as read that he is VERY immature compared to his, generally quite immature, peers.
 
#18
He can still pursue this career if he wants to. What about joining the TA, Fire Service or evn looking to expand his horizons in some sort of outdoor pursuit work.
 
#19
Christine hope you get your lad to read this on Saturday and he can then update us all as to why he is no longer in training.

Got some way to go to convince the masses that his CO phoned you because he is off home!!
 
#20
Golf_one_one said:
Ex cadets find basic training a lot harder than recruits with no previous experience.
That is a load of shit. I was a cadet and went into training not mentioning that fact and with an open mind in order to get the best out of training.

It's down to the individual, whether they are mature enough to realise that it isn't cadets and to take advantage of the opportunity that basic is.
 
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