The Dogs of War get recognition

#2
I like doggies and most other animals as much as the next man but all this pish about Animal "bravery" is feckin' ridiculous IMHO. An animal can't exhibit bravery because bravery requires an understanding and acceptance of substantial risk to one's own life, which one choose's to ignore in order to achieve an aim. If you can find a dog or any other animal that can do that, as opposed to simply doing what it has been trained and conditioned to do, then it should be hosting it's own TV show, not sniffing for explosives in the 'stan or whatever!
These animals are not being brave and any accolades should go the the people who trained them so well.

Infantile, sentimental boll*cks. What next, "Votes for Voles" as the man said?
 
#3
I like doggies and most other animals as much as the next man but all this pish about Animal "bravery" is feckin' ridiculous IMHO. An animal can't exhibit bravery because bravery requires an understanding and acceptance of substantial risk to one's own life, which one choose's to ignore in order to achieve an aim. If you can find a dog or any other animal that can do that, as opposed to simply doing what it has been trained and conditioned to do, then it should be hosting it's own TV show, not sniffing for explosives in the 'stan or whatever!
These animals are not being brave and any accolades should go the the people who trained them so well.


Infantile, sentimental boll*cks. What next, "Votes for Voles" as the man said?
Annnnd breathe!....
 
#4
I like doggies and most other animals as much as the next man but all this pish about Animal "bravery" is feckin' ridiculous IMHO. An animal can't exhibit bravery because bravery requires an understanding and acceptance of substantial risk to one's own life, which one choose's to ignore in order to achieve an aim. If you can find a dog or any other animal that can do that, as opposed to simply doing what it has been trained and conditioned to do, then it should be hosting it's own TV show, not sniffing for explosives in the 'stan or whatever!
These animals are not being brave and any accolades should go the the people who trained them so well.

Infantile, sentimental boll*cks. What next, "Votes for Voles" as the man said?
Animals CAN show bravery. A Royal Signals (Actually RE Signal Branch at the time) Carrier Pigeon delivered a message despite being wounded during WW1, as an animal acting on instincts it would surely just have sat down and died. But through, as you say, conditioning, he carried his message. Many of our heroic human acts are similar, infantry storming machine gun nests could be attributed to 'conditioning' during exercises could they not?

Likewise, what about this particular incident?

A doberman in Australia that was rescued earlier from an animal shelter, repaid his new owners in time by saving their 17-month-old daughter from a deadly snake.

Khan, as his new owners call him, picked up Charlotte Svillicic by his teeth and threw her over his shoulder.

In so doing, the dog took the bite from the king brown, the worlds third most venomous snake, instead.

Charlotte's mother, Catherine, said Khan leapt into action as the snake edged closer to Charlotte in her garden in Atherton near Cairns, Australia.

"He saved her life by risking his own. If I had not seen it with my own eyes I would never have believed it." Catherine said. "He grabbed her by the back of the nappy and threw her over his shoulder more than a meter, like she was a rag doll."

Khan, who received a shot of anti-venom from a vet after taking the snakebite has since made a full recovery.
Khans instinct should have been to run, should it not?

dog saved child snake austrailia - Google Search

Plenty of other stories of dogs who may well have acted knowing they could be hurt/killed but protected someone they love. You could say it is conditioning, protecting the pack but then is that not what triggers some Human heroism?

We celebrate the act, not the person/animal that acted.
 
#5
Animals experience fear. They may not be able to intellectualise the consequences of their every action, but there is solid evidence that they are able to overcome fear and perform acts of bravery. Some may be braver than others, some would become so stressed that they would be unsuitable for the jobs expected of them in the Army. I haven't any first hand experience of Animals in the Armed Forces, but I expect there is a selection process to weed out the jittery, nervous types. As far as the article mentioned is concerned, seems to me that there is a much bigger story running in the background which should also be appreciated.
 

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