The definitive guide on Medals as at Jan 06

[skintboymike]

Just thought I'd bump this thread back to life with a question. I have recently two soldiers with seven medals mounted in two different ways. One had all seven in a row overlapping each other, while the other lad had two rows. I was led to believe that this was dependant on size of chest, but both lads were similarly built. Anyone with any definitve info?

 

[TIGER-MONKEY]

As far as I am aware medals are never worn in more than one row.

The size of the chest bit refers to the ribbands on the tunic

 

[Dragstrip]

When medals cannot, on account of their number, be suspended from the brooch so as to be fully seen, they are to overlap with the first medal fully exposed.

To illustrate:

http://www.museumofworldwarii.com/Images2005/12MontPhotolge.gif

 

[skintboymike]

Certainly makes more sense to me. The overlapped medals looked gash, if I'm being honest.

 

[Jan_van_Riebeek]

Does anyone know what medal you will get if you go to Kosovo on Op Oculus now? Would it be the non-Article 5 NATO medal? Not that a tour is about medals, but its nice to know what you would get?

Jan

 

[plant_life]

Still Non Article 5 but as far as I know our commitment ends this year! Bye bye Balkans!

 

[jack-daniels]

Just looked at that list and I think there's one missing. A mate of mine still serving has the Rhodesian Cease Fire Monitoring team one, not sure of the official name for it.

 

[Jan_van_Riebeek]

assuming I get to go, what a crappy looking medal, I can just see everyone asking me for the rest of my life what "non-article 5" means.

 

[plant_life]

Well there's one for there and you also get one for Afghanistan not that you are allowed to wear it.

 

[Social_Handgrenade]

This thread has made me think of something i noticed on Sunday.

What's the crack with people wearing a number 2* on the ribbon?

I can remember some of our guys whinging in the late 90's about not get one for their second Bosnia tour (Nato), but I just thought they were just taking the pish




*Take you mind outta the gutter

 

[codename1157]

On the subject of the Kosovo Non-Article 5 chocolate coin. Can it be worn with the NATO FRY? i.e Bosnia when the NATO FRY was given out but first tour of Kosovo when Non-Article 5 was being awarded for both theatres?

I was originally told no but did this change with the Jan 06 DIN?

I can't see anything in the extracts from the DIN already posted and I don't have access to the Intraweb at the moment.

 

[wafubustard]

The number 2 denotes 2 tours done that qualify for the medal

 

[RP578]

Just looked at that list and I think there's one missing. A mate of mine still serving has the Rhodesian Cease Fire Monitoring team one, not sure of the official name for it.

You can now wear the Rhodesia Medal (though not the Zimbabwe Independence medal), but I think it goes pretty much right at the end after the LSGC and not with other campaign medals.

 

[jack-daniels]

Just looked at that list and I think there's one missing. A mate of mine still serving has the Rhodesian Cease Fire Monitoring team one, not sure of the official name for it.

You can now wear the Rhodesia Medal (though not the Zimbabwe Independence medal), but I think it goes pretty much right at the end after the LSGC and not with other campaign medals.

He's been wearing it since it was issued, it's a UK issued one and it's on his medal bar before the South Atlantic medal.

Criteria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia_Medal

This one:

 

[Knightofthesquaretable]

On the subject of the Kosovo Non-Article 5 chocolate coin. Can it be worn with the NATO FRY? i.e Bosnia when the NATO FRY was given out but first tour of Kosovo when Non-Article 5 was being awarded for both theatres?

I was originally told no but did this change with the Jan 06 DIN?

I can't see anything in the extracts from the DIN already posted and I don't have access to the Intraweb at the moment.

No, you can't wear the Non-Article 5 if you already have the FRY or Kosovo medal.

 

[RP578]

Just looked at that list and I think there's one missing. A mate of mine still serving has the Rhodesian Cease Fire Monitoring team one, not sure of the official name for it.

You can now wear the Rhodesia Medal (though not the Zimbabwe Independence medal), but I think it goes pretty much right at the end after the LSGC and not with other campaign medals.

He's been wearing it since it was issued, it's a UK issued one and it's on his medal bar before the South Atlantic medal.

Criteria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia_Medal

This one:

Yeah that's the bunny. Might be the Independence medal that had/has restrictions on wearing, but it is definitely worn at the end of the rack. See below for order of wear:


Order of Wear

The order of wear shows the sequence in which orders, decorations and medals should be worn. Specific instructions on how to wear each award are included inside its case.

For full information on the wearing of honours, Spink produce 'A Manual for the Wearing of Orders, Decorations and Medals'.

The document below was published in The London Gazette in March 2003:

Central Chancery of the Orders of Knighthood

St James's Palace, London SWI

17th March 2003

The following list shows the order in which Orders, Decorations and Medals should be worn in the United Kingdom, certain countries of the Commonwealth and in the Overseas Territories. It incorporates the Decorations and Medals instituted since 1983 and should be substituted for the list dated 28th October 1983. This list in no way affects the precedence conferred by the Statutes of certain Orders upon the Members thereof. See the notes towards the end of this list for guidance about letters after the name for those awards indicated with an asterisk.

Victoria Cross*

George Cross*
British Orders of Knighthood, Etc .

* Order of the Garter* i
* Order of the Thistle* i
* Order of St Patrick* i
* Order of the Bath*
* Order of Merit* ii (immediately after Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath)
* Order of the Star of India*
* Order of St Michael and St George*
* Order of the Indian Empire*
* Order of the Crown of India* iii
* Royal Victorian Order (Classes I, II and III)*
* Order of the British Empire (Classes I, II and III)* iv
* Order of the Companions of Honour* ii (immediately after Knights and Dames Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire)
* Distinguished Service Order*
* Royal Victorian Order (Class IV)*
* Order of the British Empire (Class IV)* iv
* Imperial Service Order*
* Royal Victorian Order (Class V)*
* Order of the British Empire (Class V)* iv

Note: The above applies to those Orders of similar grades. When the miniature or riband of a higher grade of a junior Order is worn with that of a lower grade of a senior Order, the higher grade miniature or riband should come first, e.g., the miniature or riband of a K.B.E. will come before a C.B. and a G.C.M.G. will come before a K.C.B. The ribands of Orders, when the riband is worn alone, will be of the width of that of a Member of the Order. If there is no Fifth Class the riband will be of the width of that of a Companion of the Order.


Baronet's Badge * (The Badge is worn suspended round the neck from the riband in the same manner as the Neck Badge of an Order. It takes precedence immediately after the Badge of the Order of Merit. It is not worn in miniature and the riband is not worn with Undress Uniform.)

Knight Bachelor's Badge (The Badge is worn suspended round the neck from the riband in the same manner as the Neck Badge of an Order. It takes precedence immediately after the Badge of a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire.)

Indian Order of Merit (Military)* v
Decorations

* Conspicuous Gallantry Cross*
* Royal Red Cross (Class I)*
* Distinguished Service Cross*
* Military Cross*
* Distinguished Flying Cross*
* Air Force Cross*
* Royal Red Cross (Class II)*
* Order of British India*
* Kaisar-i-Hind Medal
* Order of St John

Medals for Gallantry and Distinguished Conduct

* Union of South Africa Queen's Medal for Bravery (Gold)
* Distinguished Conduct Medal*
* Conspicuous Gallantry Medal*
* Conspicuous Gallantry Medal (Flying)*
* George Medal*
* Queen's Police Medal, for Gallantry*
* Queen's Fire Service Medal, for Gallantry*
* Royal West African Frontier Force Distinguished Conduct Medal*
* King's African Rifles Distinguished Conduct Medal*
* Indian Distinguished Service Medal*
* Union of South Africa Queen's Medal for Bravery (Silver)
* Distinguished Service Medal*
* Military Medal*
* Distinguished Flying Medal*
* Air Force Medal*
* Constabulary Medal (Ireland)
* Medal for Saving Life at Sea (Sea Gallantry Medal)*
* Indian Order of Merit (Civil)* v
* Indian Police Medal for Gallantry
* Ceylon Police Medal for Gallantry
* Sierra Leone Police Medal for Gallantry
* Sierra Leone Fire Brigades Medal for Gallantry
* Colonial Police Medal for Gallantry*
* Queen's Gallantry Medal*
* Royal Victorian Medal (Gold, Silver and Bronze)*
* British Empire Medal* vi
* Canada Medal*
* Queen's Police Medal, for Distinguished Service*
* Queen's Fire Service Medal, for Distinguished Service*
* Queen's Volunteer Reserves Medal*
* Queen's Medal for Chiefs

Campaign Medals and Stars including authorised United Nations, European Community/Union and North Atlantic Treaty Organisation medals (in order of date of campaign for which awarded).


Polar Medals (in order of date)

* Imperial Service Medal

Police Medals for Valuable Service

* Indian Police Medal for Meritorious Service
* Ceylon Police Medal for Merit
* Sierra Leone Police Medal for Meritorious Service
* Sierra Leone Fire Brigades Medal for Meritorious Service
* Colonial Police Medal for Meritorious Service* vii

Badge of Honour


Jubilee, Coronation and Durbar Medals

* Queen Victoria's Jubilee Medal, 1887 (Gold, Silver and Bronze)
* Queen Victoria's Police Jubilee Medal, 1887
* Queen Victoria's Jubilee Medal, 1897 (Gold, Silver and Bronze)
* Queen Victoria's Police Jubilee Medal, 1897
* Queen Victoria's Commemoration Medal, 1900 (Ireland)
* King Edward VII's Coronation Medal, 1902
* King Edward VII's Police Coronation Medal, 1902
* King Edward VII's Durbar Medal, 1903 (Gold, Silver and Bronze)
* King Edward VII's Police Medal, 1903 (Scotland)
* King's Visit Commemoration Medal, 1903 (Ireland)
* King George V's Coronation Medal, 1911
* King George V's Police Coronation Medal, 1911
* King's Visit Commemoration Medal, 1911 (Ireland)
* King George V's Durbar Medal, 1911 (Gold, viii Silver and Bronze)
* King George V's Silver Jubilee Medal, 1935
* King George VI's Coronation Medal, 1937
* Queen Elizabeth II's Coronation Medal, 1953
* Queen Elizabeth II's Silver Jubilee Medal, 1977
* Queen Elizabeth II's Golden Jubilee Medal, 2002
* King George V's Long and Faithful Service Medal
* King George VI's Long and Faithful Service Medal
* Queen Elizabeth II's Long and Faithful Service Medal

Efficiency and Long Service Decorations and Medals

* Meritorious Service Medal
* Accumulated Campaign Service Medal
* Medal for Long Service and Good Conduct (Military)
* Naval Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Medal for Meritorious Service (Royal Navy 1918-192*
* Indian Long Service and Good Conduct Medal ix
* Indian Meritorious Service Medal ix
* Royal Marines Meritorious Service Medal (1849-1947)
* Royal Air Force Meritorious Service Medal (1918-192
* Royal Air Force Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Medal for Long Service and Good Conduct (Ulster Defence Regiment)
* Indian Long Service and Good Conduct Medal x
* Royal West African Frontier Force Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Royal Sierra Leone Military Forces Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* King's African Rifles Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Indian Meritorious Service Medal x
* Police Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Fire Brigade Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* African Police Medal for Meritorious Service
* Royal Canadian Mounted Police Long Service Medal
* Ceylon Police Long Service Medal
* Ceylon Fire Services Long Service Medal
* Sierra Leone Police Long Service Medal
* Colonial Police Long Service Medal
* Sierra Leone Fire Brigades Long Service Medal
* Mauritius Police Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Mauritius Fire Services Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Mauritius Prisons Service Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Colonial Fire Brigades Long Service Medal
* Colonial Prison Service Medal
* Hong Kong Disciplined Services Medal
* Army Emergency Reserve Decoration*
* Volunteer Officers' Decoration*
* Volunteer Long Service Medal
* Volunteer Officers' Decoration (for India and the Colonies)*
* Volunteer Long Service Medal (for India and the Colonies)
* Colonial Auxiliary Forces Officers' Decoration*
* Colonial Auxiliary Forces Long Service Medal
* Medal for Good Shooting (Naval)
* Militia Long Service Medal
* Imperial Yeomanry Long Service Medal
* Territorial Decoration*
* Ceylon Armed Services Long Service Medal
* Efficiency Decoration*
* Territorial Efficiency Medal
* Efficiency Medal
* Special Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Decoration for Officers of the Royal Naval Reserve*
* Decoration for Officers of the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve*
* Royal Naval Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Royal Naval Auxiliary Sick Berth Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Royal Fleet Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Royal Naval Wireless Auxiliary Reserve Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Royal Naval Auxiliary Service Medal
* Air Efficiency Award*
* Volunteer Reserves Service Medal
* Ulster Defence Regiment Medal*
* Northern Ireland Home Service Medal
* Queen's Medal (for Champion Shots of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines)
* Queen's Medal (for Champion Shots of the New Zealand Naval Forces)
* Queen's Medal (for Champion Shots in the Military Forces)
* Queen's Medal (for Champion Shots of the Air Forces)
* Cadet Forces Medal
* Coastguard Auxiliary Service Long Service Medal xi
* Special Constabulary Long Service Medal
* Canadian Forces Decoration*
* Royal Observer Corps Medal
* Civil Defence Long Service Medal
* Ambulance Service (Emergency Duties) Long Service and Good Conduct Medal
* Royal Fleet Auxiliary Service Medal
* Rhodesia Medal
* Royal Ulster Constabulary Service Medal
* Northern Ireland Prison Service Medal
* Union of South Africa Commemoration Medal
* Indian Independence Medal
* Pakistan Medal
* Ceylon Armed Services Inauguration Medal
* Ceylon Police Independence Medal (194
* Sierra Leone Independence Medal
* Jamaica Independence Medal
* Uganda Independence Medal
* Malawi Independence Medal
* Fiji Independence Medal
* Papua New Guinea Independence Medal
* Solomon Islands Independence Medal
* Service Medal of the Order of St. John
* Badge of the Order of the League of Mercy xii
* Voluntary Medical Service Medal
* Women's Royal Voluntary Service Medal
* South African Medal for War Services
* Colonial Special Constabulary Medal

 

[jack-daniels]

Just looked at that list and I think there's one missing. A mate of mine still serving has the Rhodesian Cease Fire Monitoring team one, not sure of the official name for it.

You can now wear the Rhodesia Medal (though not the Zimbabwe Independence medal), but I think it goes pretty much right at the end after the LSGC and not with other campaign medals.

He's been wearing it since it was issued, it's a UK issued one and it's on his medal bar before the South Atlantic medal.

Criteria:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhodesia_Medal

This one:

Yeah that's the bunny. Might be the Independence medal that had/has restrictions on wearing, but it is definitely worn at the end of the rack. See below for order of wear:

ORDERS, DECORATIONS AND MEDALS ARE WORN

1. The Victoria Cross and the George Cross
VC, GC

2. United Kingdom Orders
KG, KT, GCB, OM, GCMG, GCVO, GBE, CH, KCB/DCB, KCMG/DCMG,
KCVO/DCVO, KBE/DBE, CB, CMG, CVO, CBE, DSO, LVO, OBE, MVO, MBE

3. United Kingdom Decorations
CGC, RRC, DSC, MC, DFC, AFC, ARRC

4. Order of St John (all classes)

5. United Kingdom Medals for Gallantry and Distinguished Service
[DCM, CGM, CGM(F)] GM [DSM, MM, DFM, AFM] QGM, RVM, [BEM]
QVRM

6. United Kingdom Operational Service Medals, United Nations Medals
and Medals of other recognised international organisations
In order of date of award

7. Coronation and Jubilee Medals
In order of date of award

8. Long Service and Efficiency, etc Awards
Meritorious Service Medal
Accumulated Campaign Service Medal
Regular Forces LS & GC Medals (Army, RN, RAF, UDR/R IRISH (Home
Service)) TD RD RNR LS & GC Medal, [RFR LS & GC Medal], [RNXS Medal]
AE VRSM, [UD] NIHSM Queen's Medals for Champion Shots, Cadet Forces Medal Rhodesia Medal

I'll have to grip him on it! Do you know that no one has ever picked him up on it! Mind you, he's got that fecking many they probably don't even notice.
Where did that list come from?

Edited to add: WTF! That big list wasn't there about 30 seconds ago!

 

[RP578]

Just edited my last to incorporate a link and more comprehensive list. The Rhodie medal was an odd one and I really have no idea why it has the order of precedence that it does.

 

[jack-daniels]

Just edited my last to incorporate a link and more comprehensive list. The Rhodie medal was an odd one and I really have no idea why it has the order of precedence that it does.

Tis weird indeed, looking at the Wiki link it says that only 144 were issued. He's be well jacked off if he had to remount them all to move it to the end! I reckon it will be staying where it is!

 

[Sloppy Link]

The No2 or any other other digit for that matter on NATO or UN medals is not for two tours/three tours etc because different nations have different tour lenghts. The medal is awarded for 28 days service (medal 1). A further 180 days gets you the 2, 180 days more the 3 and so on. Most people have the 2 for two Bosnia tours little knowing that one mr etranche of 28 days and they get the 3. I have seen a UN Cyprus one with 6, yes 6! WTF is that all about?