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  1. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    The Daily Hate has joined the Taxpayer's Alliance with a view to potentially bringing about private prosecutions against a bunch of thieving MPs.

    They want to know your view on whether to proceed, as it looks like the CPs is decidedly lukewarm about prosecuting the great and good.

    You can visit the Daily Hate web-page and vote on whether you'd like to see these bods prosecuted.

    This is NOT a support the Daily Hate plug, this is a link to a place where you can vote for or against private prosecutions of the MPs in question.

    Here's a quote from Boris Johnson on the matter:

  2. The Police are running scared after Damian Green. That and the fact that the "rules" are holier than the pope. I think you just take a look at the definition for fraud, apply the service test, and those that fail are open to prosecution.

    But then I'm just a gopping prole and don't deserve to be heard.
  3. Orange boiler-suits all round and a one way to Guantanamo Bay, where they can await a Military Tribunal at our leisure.

    Cnuts! The lot of them...
  4. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    Rules or no rules - the law takes precedence. It's like employment law - you make up the dodgiest employment contracts you like, but Employment Law supersedes it every time.

    The 'Obtaining Money by Deception' law supersedes parliamentary rules allowing false declarations to get extra dosh out of the tax-payer.

    Falsely declaring second homes to parliament, and then another second home to the Tax office, to both claim money from one, whilst avoiding paying tax to another is quite clearly fraudulent, by obtaining money by deception and avoiding tax. One of those statements is an outright lie, and unfair financial benefits are the expected and then achieved results.

    Just my opinion on the matter.
  5. Could not agree more. Do you see or hear anybody from the CPS making a song and dance about a prosecution? The Met Police Commisioner? Anyone other than those of us whose taxes have been squirrelled away?


    Thought not.
  6. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    Slight problem with "malice aforethought", CPS would need to prove intent which would be hard.

    Private prosecutions would have more chance as they can be based on "balance of probability" factors.
  7. Just a guess, but who is likely to be in the firing-line from the Pro-Tory Mail and the wholly Tory TA?
  8. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    Only an idiot would see this as a party issue, MP's of any alignment who have milked the system are not popular with the public right now - even previously popular ones.
  9. This a socialist you are talking about...
  10. It's the Daily Mail we're talking about.
  11. Alsacien

    Alsacien LE Moderator

    Whose side are Sky on?
  12. People are discussing this issue all over, and the key comment is, "If I did this, I'd be in jail". I can't see this scandal ending without arrests, if not convictions.

    People are bright enough to differentiate between Jack Straw, who made a mistake and paid the money back a while ago, and Elliot Morley who didn't notice he'd paid off his mortgage :roll: and was presumably too busy or disorganised to update his claims. I hope that the Police can tell the difference, too. That Tory couple who were arranging things so they had two full allowances on the same homes should be up in court explaining themselves, not deciding whether or not they should resign.

    Plenty of MP's are going to be de-selected by their local parties. After the clearout that's coming at the next election, the new Parliament will be very interesting.
  13. Biped

    Biped LE Book Reviewer

    Just a thought - the last 12 years have seen the name of the British Judiciary brought low, just as the 'good' name of our democracy has been toileted. In the case of the judiciary, it's been the lack of proper sentencing, and simply allowing tens of thousands of crim scumbags to roam the streets despite being quite clearly guilty, and the CPS for failing to bring many crims to court in the first place.

    Just like Parliament, the Judiciary has got one hell of a lot of work to do to regain the trust and respect of the British public - that which serves the British people via powers granted by the Crown, which also serves the British People. Never forget that there's approx. 65,000,000 people in this country, and at the end of the day, if all else fails, it is WE who call the shots (pun intended) if our government and system fails us.

    Just as the police TWICE answered the call of the now disgraced MP's, they can now answer the call of the public they serve and represent. The courts should do the same.
  14. The reason is simple and obvious-we've gone yellow in official circles.Whilst I'm not calling every one in Central and Local government a coward,it seems clear that the sacred coward's mantra has had too much sway in both foreign and domestic policies for too long.The mantra reads something like this;
    Tighten the screw on those you can control(but only the easy ones,mind)OR run away from/suck up to those you can't.
    I believe that one would struggle to find many examples of either of the above policies which had not been swayed to a significant extent by the above 'mantra'.
  15. The question is, which statement is true:

    "All are equal before the law; no-one is above the law."


    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."