The CIA & Google Connection

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  1. The CIA & Google Connection

    Google is supplying the software, hardware and tech support to US intelligence agencies who are in the process of creating a vast closed source database for global spy networks to share information.

    Google is selling storage and data searching equipment to the CIA, the FBI, the National Security Agency, and other intelligence agencies, who have come together to build a huge internal government intranet.

    Google is also providing the search features for a private Wikipedia-style site, called Intellipedia.

    "We are a very small group, and even a lot of people in the federal government don't know that we exist," said Mike Bradshaw, who leads Google's federal government sales team and its 18 employees, yesterday to the San Francisco Chronicle.

    The government supply arm of Google has also reportedly entered into a number of other contracts, details of which it says it cannot share.

    Google's partnership with the intelligence network is not new. As we reported in late 2006, An ex-CIA agent Robert David Steele has claimed sources told him that CIA seed money helped get the company off the ground

    Speaking to the Alex Jones Show, Steele elaborated on previous revelations by making it known that the CIA helped bankroll Google at its very inception. Steele named Google's CIA point man as Dr. Rick Steinheiser, of the Office of Research and Development.

    "I think Google took money from the CIA when it was poor and it was starting up and unfortunately our system right now floods money into spying and other illegal and largely unethical activities, and it doesn't fund what I call the open source world," said Steele, citing "trusted individuals" as his sources for the claim.

    "They've been together for quite a while," added Steele.

    Late last year, new programs of internet monitoring were announced by a freshly created department branch of Homeland Security called the National Applications Office.

    "Mr. Chertoff also plans soon to unveil a cyber-security strategy, part of an estimated $15 billion, multiyear program designed to protect the nation's Internet infrastructure. The program has been shrouded in secrecy for months and has also prompted privacy concerns on Capitol Hill because it involves government protection of domestic computer networks." The Wall Street Journal wrote.

    Essentially the program allows the DHS to regulate and control access to the internet in the name of "protecting" national security.

    The news came on the back of separate revelations that another military spy agency, the NSA has increasing control over SSL, now called Transport Layer Security, the cryptographic protocol that provides secure communications on the internet for web browsing, e-mail, instant messaging, and other data transfers.

    In other words the agency is capable of intercepting and reading your emails and instant messages in real time.

    Earlier this year came the announcement that US National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell is drawing up plans for cyberspace spying that would make the current debate on warrantless wiretaps look like a "walk in the park".

    The plan would mean giving the government the authority to examine the content of any e-mail, file transfer or Web search.

    Recently, the lawyer for an AT&T engineer has alleged that "within two weeks of taking office, the Bush administration was planning a comprehensive effort of spying on Americans” That is BEFORE 9/11, before the nation was embroiled in the freedom stripping exercise commonly known as the "war on terror" had even begun.

    Earlier this year, CNET reported that both Google and Microsoft refused to say if they have provided users private data to the federal government under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act -- the warrantless wiretapping program.

    We have also previously reported on a vast intelligence program, being overseen by the FBI, which is to establish a global biometric database known as "Server in the Sky" that will collate and provide an "International Information Consortium" with access to the biometric measurements and personal information of citizens of the US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand in the name of fighting the "war on terror".

    After 9/11 the work of 16 different intelligence agencies, including the CIA and the giant National Security Agency, which eavesdrops on international communications, as well as the Energy Department and the Drug Enforcement Administration was centralized under the office of the Director of National Intelligence.

    Over decades we have witnessed the evolution of Government surveillance programs and information databases targeting citizens. We are now witnessing the centralization of this vast control grid Panopticon beyond our own borders.
  2. And your credible source for this tin foil hat wearing nonsense is?

    ....what next?

    diana... MI6 did it...

    dinosaurs found on the moon

    George michael in "I am gay" shocker

    hitler was a Lesbian into ouija boards.

    how utterly tedious.

    you need to get out more.
  3. I know this sounds like 'conspiracy theory' bunk, but if even half of it is true, is very concerning.

    Mate, do you live in US? Have you any idea how much Georgie lad has already overstepped Constitutional bounds?

    Here is one link:
    Have not been able to find the original, yet.
  4. and .... your credible source?
  5. Did you pick up this story this morning by any chance, have you checked the date?
  6. The 'DailyTech' is not credible?
    The former agent may, or may not have an axe to grind.
  7. I do not doubt that Google has a strong connection with the CIA. I used to work for a company which produced business intelligence on the defence market. Its' founders were CIA pensioners/retirees...we always seemed to have an entree that our more commercial colleagues lacked. We also got to a lot of things that the CIA would have had to paint themselves day-glo to be invited too...result excellent intelligence and a very handy auxiliary for the CIA. Curiously enough most of its US employees were ex-military. All of its non-US employees were military!
  8. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
    1. Battlefield Tours

  9. palpable nonsense; the day intelligence agencies start a free exchange database access arrangement with each other is the day porcine flight is conquered. There is nothing, I'll repeat for clarity, NOTHING that these agencies guard more jealously and closely than access to their databases; their lives, PIN numbers, loyalty to respective government masters, and inside leg measurements come a distant second.

    Big deal; industry specialists flog services and products to a government agency. That's never happened before. :roll:

    The rest seems to be garden variety conspiracy nonsense and whiney-arrsed tinfoilhat babbling about how the government is keeping tabs on them. I've got news for you; they have been keeping a look out for crazies and potential threats for decades via the likes of echelon et al, so it's a bit late to act all surprised when they start reading your bank statement.

    Oh dear, it appears I've said too much again; I can hear the Black Helicopterstm coming over the hill. Time for the **** probe....again! 8O
  10. What's the problem here. The intelligence agencies have mountains of internet type data to search. So two options, develop at massive expense a crap version of google or buy google software off the shelf. The times article quoted does not say that google are providing any access to the internet or data from its users. It does say that the security agencies are using google sofware on their own systems.
  11. In amongst all the tin foil have you considered how many data clerks are need too process this mahooosive mass of RAW intel to produce something that may or may not link you too goatporn... 8O
  12. Actually they have software that does that.

    Data mining is quite a large industry and not just limited to the CIA or intelligence offices.

    Besides, we don't have state run tv or internet so have to resort to this type of stuff.
  13. Trip_Wire

    Trip_Wire RIP

    After reading the version of the article you posted here. I can't really see any problem with Google or any other software business aiding the Intelligence community with such a program. If it works and aides that community with it's job, I'm all for it!

    We need all the help w can get with good Intel.
  14. My bold; sorry to jump on the KevinB bashing bandwagon, but isn't this along the same lines as the World Series, lived there a long time have we?
  15. It was a Lancaster Bomber - not Dinosaurs :lol: