The Brexit Consequences Thread

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by Sarastro, Jun 25, 2016.

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  1. Buy a ticket on a ferry?
     
  2. The same way they come in now but with no UK border force or police in France on the lookout for them getting into the back of trucks. The French don't want them either, which is why we have a UK presence over there and if the French don;t want them then why not turn a blind eye if it get's them out of France.

    Send them back straight away you say? You think that the French will just take them back?

    Anyway, It's possible consequence that we're going to have to live with, i'll leave it there.
     
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  3. It's a massive wake up call for the EU and for Britain, and (hopefully) it will trigger the reforms the EU badly needs. Brexit isn't a fact, yet. Cameron, the man who promised to accept the British vote, resigned and basically left Britain a full member of the EU for at least the coming months. Last year his potential successor, Boris Johnson, expressed the wish to use the referendum result to renegotiate with the EU (and a possible 2nd referendum after the renegotiations). It wasn't an option for Cameron though.

    In short, the man who could have led Britain out of the EU refused to do so and passed on this job to his successor. I wouldn't be surprised if the next PM has a "one last chance" meeting with the EU later this year under the pretext of "a divided nation/must not ignore the remainers/for the unity of Europe/World Peace/etc". The longer the uncertainty of "when to leave" lasts, the more difficult (psychologically) it will be to actually push the Article 50 button. With reforms on its way a renegotiated stay in the EU could still be presented as a massive victory for the Leave camp by the next government.
     
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  4. OK one more reply, The French, as members of the schengen agreement do not have to conduct border access control, they only do it currently at the FRench exit ports close to the UK because we are not members or schengen nor will we be.

    The French do not have to check anyones pasports of visa's at Calais. So when Johnny Mohammad turns up for his coach or ferry, he can get on and travel to the UK. When the UK border people discover that he is not British, they will have to deal with him, sending him back to france is likely to result in a "NON!" form the French so he'll have to be dealt with some other way (hint - by putting him in a camp in the UK until it can be legally determined what to do with him).
     
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  5. No it can't, the UK is still in the EU, remember
     
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  6. Judging by the number of students whining on facebook.

    One consequence should be the removal of 'safe spaces ' and the immediate introduction of combative competition.
     
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  7. You do realise that the agreement that exists between the UK and France over borders has nothing to do with the EU. You do know that, right.
     
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  8. They don't just come from Calais either, any passing ship can drop people off.

    Coastguard rescues suspected migrants off Kent coast - BBC News
     
  9. Tell it to the Frenchman who is the one talking about it in the reference link, He doesn't think so.
     
  10. Hopefully Brexit will mean no more interference from Brussels regarding firearms laws, so a great result for shooters.
     
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  11. Fang_Farrier

    Fang_Farrier LE Reviewer Book Reviewer

    Well, obviously not immediately.

    It's an interesting point for discussion. What happens to those cases currently before EU courts and do we need to bide by any decisions made by them since the vote has been made to Leave
     
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  12. That's a joke, right. The agreement is between Paris and the UK, not some halfwit Mayor of Calais (who'd have that job!) who is facing her people kicking her in to touch because of the problem 'they' have in Calais. Its obviously makes headlines so she can be seen that she is at least doing something.
     
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  13. The referendum vote was not legally binding so nothing happens until Article 50 is invoked, then it will be about 2 years before the EU ceases to apply to the UK, however, it took Greenland 7 years to negotiate their exit and they only cared about fishing.
     
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  14. Technically, I would say "Yes" but, as posted in the Brexit thread there is always the "We'd love to do that, old bean, but we're rather busy with the process of leaving the EU and, well, these things do take time" excuse, which is the diplomatic way of saying "Do one".

    Of course, if Auld Nic gets her way, Scotland will be in the EU and she loses her minimum prices policy forever. I guess that's something else she never really thought through.