The Brexit Consequences Thread

#22
Latvian Civil Service were recalled to work through their holidays: impact on Latvian Government revenues, migration flows and drawing up negotiation position.

The thoughts are that they will have to be strong in negotiations - extract concessions from the UK Govt in future negotiations and not follow the German lead. One thought is that they will fight for Child Benefit to be paid to Latvian children in Latvia!
UK.
The economic and geopolitical powerhouse of Latvia might find itself being told to do one then. Also is it really in the Latvian people's interest to start a political row with one of its main allies while Russia's still playing silly buggers?
 
#27
It's very similar to Farage's 350 million "was a mistake"

Who would have thought politicians would have lied (either deliberately or by omission) during a campaign.
To be honest, even Farage never said immigration would stop and didn't want it to stop. Merely controlled.

What's worrying me is the amount of people trying to over look s democratic process.
 
#28
It's very similar to Farage's 350 million "was a mistake"

Who would have thought politicians would have lied (either deliberately or by omission) during a campaign.

There were lies and statistics on both sides of the campaign. Now we have made the decision we had better start making it work. One thing that made me laugh was when Farrage said a few days ago that the money saved on being in the EU could build a hospital a week.
Firstly, the sums quoted were untrue, secondly not all the rebate money will go into the NHS and thirdly who will build, maintain and staff all these hospitals if we don't allow the eastern Europeans in!?
Cameron was right on one thing yesterday. We need to steady the ship and take stock. Hysteria and yet more lies will not help. We do indeed live in interesting times.
 

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#29
To be honest, even Farage never said immigration would stop and didn't want it to stop. Merely controlled.

What's worrying me is the amount of people trying to over look s democratic process.
Farage's mistake was over the money, not numbers of immigrants.
Nigel Farage says pledge of £350 million a week for NHS was a mistake
Nigel Farage: £350 million pledge to fund the NHS was 'a mistake'
Farage says £350 million NHS pledge was a 'mistake'
Watch: Brexit lies unravel as Nigel Farage calls £350m a week promise to NHS "a mistake"
 

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#30
It's very similar to Farage's 350 million "was a mistake"

Who would have thought politicians would have lied (either deliberately or by omission) during a campaign.
It's very similar to Farage's 350 million "was a mistake"

Who would have thought politicians would have lied (either deliberately or by omission) during a campaign.
Yep, Jeremy Cliffe, writer for the Economist made a very prescient tweet before the referendum, which I can't find right now, which went alongvthe lines of that when the public realise that the public realise the leaders of Leave won't deliver on their claims the sense of betrayal and anger from their supporters will make the expenses scandal look like a picnic.

What's is quickly emerging is that Leave are desperate to establish an EEA relationship with Europe, so still paying in, though now with no rebate; still following European laws and regulations, though now with no ability to shap or frame them before they come into force; still subject to free movement of people.

Brilliant so much for taking back control. Leavers have successfully emasculated us in Europe, diminished our standing in the eyes of the world, increased the financial cost of European trade, fecked the pound and stock market, hindered future economic growth by several percentage points and made the break up of the UK one step closer.

All for a fig leaf of flag and sovereignty.
 

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#31
There were lies and statistics on both sides of the campaign. Now we have made the decision we had better start making it work. One thing that made me laugh was when Farrage said a few days ago that the money saved on being in the EU could build a hospital a week.
Firstly, the sums quoted were untrue, secondly not all the rebate money will go into the NHS and thirdly who will build, maintain and staff all these hospitals if we don't allow the eastern Europeans in!?
Cameron was right on one thing yesterday. We need to steady the ship and take stock. Hysteria and yet more lies will not help. We do indeed live in interesting times.

The number of lies, fallacies and blatant falsehoods, from both sides was widely commentated upon during teh run up to the vote.

The backtracking of those from the Leave Campaign on various issues is interesting. In both cases highlighted so far, the politicians challenged have freely admitted that their campaigns were based on such falsehoods but they did nothing to highlight or contradict them.

Obviously if Remain had won, I would expect the same sort of exposure of their campaign to be ongoing.

It will blow over, we will go back to normal politics, eventually, but with the vote being so close, feelings are high. Both sides relied on an emotional aspect to winning voters rather than rational debate. It is difficult therefore to immediately dismiss all those emotions having stirred them up.
 
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#33
The people who are whining that they regret voting leave now disgust me, and the negative spin by the media is what is driving the markets the media will put us into a recession not the out voters.
 
#36
Yep, Jeremy Cliffe, writer for the Economist made a very prescient tweet before the referendum, which I can't find right now, which went alongvthe lines of that when the public realise that the public realise the leaders of Leave won't deliver on their claims the sense of betrayal and anger from their supporters will make the expenses scandal look like a picnic.
I disagree.

Judging by some of the comments here (and on social media), when it all goes wrong it will simply be blamed on Cameron, bankers, the media, and probably even the EU.

Nothing to do with the inevitable consequences of such a massive decision in a globalised economy, of course.



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#37
No sign that the healing begins, in fact it looks like the bitterness runs deep.

More than 700,000 have signed a petition demanding a second EU referendum
I will admit that I am disappointed I had hoped that be it in or out the % for the winner would have laid this to rest,radio 4 toady seemed to me to be trying to say it was a protest at the political elite,well it is true the political elite have not listened to the plebs for years and that has come to bite them on the arse.
the political elite of the eu,now are desperate to slap us down(if we had voted yes we would still have got a kicking for the cheek of having a vote) to prevent another vote bringing down the superstate dream.
the best thing for us would be another country having a vote in the next 6 months.
I can not but feel that if it had gone the other way there would not be the sour grapes we see festering away now,well time will tell,however if we see turkey fast tracked,a euro army in the near future then out have been proved correct