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The Brexit Consequences Thread

Goatman

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All at a timely pace (one mustn't rush these things) of about 3 years.

....and specifying that only eggs produced at a poultry unit in Sp'Coynoinautchi ( coincidentally owned by a cousin of enquiry Chairman) met the standard prescribed.



Mentioning the European Convention on Human Rights, following a line from another thread - I had a look at the European Council's webite

Accession of the EU - Information

Where I found this - in relation to sagefuarding the Rights of Roma and Traveller families across Europe :

Factsheet – Roma and Travellers 22
Bagdonavicius and Others v. Russia 11 October 2016

This case concerned the demolition of houses and the forced eviction of people of Roma origin who lived in a village in the Kaliningrad Region. The applicants alleged in particular 5. See also the judgment on just satisfaction in this case delivered by the Court on 28 April 2016. that their eviction and the demolition of their homes had infringed their right to respect for their private and family life and home. They also complained of a violation of their right to the peaceful enjoyment of their possessions. Lastly, they alleged that the interviews that some of them had had with the police had hindered the exercise of their right of individual application.

The Court held that there had been a violation of Article 8 (right to respect for private and family life and the home) of the Convention, finding that the applicants had not, in the proceedings with regard to the demolition of their homes, had the benefit of an examination of the proportionality of the interference, in compliance with the requirements of Article 8, and that the national authorities had not conducted genuine consultations with the applicants about possible rehousing options, on the basis of their needs and prior to their forcible eviction.

As to the applicants’ allegation of propriety interests with regard to their homes, the Court considered that these had not been sufficiently weighty and established to constitute a substantive interest and hence “possessions” within the meaning of Article 1 of Protocol No. 1 to the Convention. It therefore declared this part of the complaint inadmissible. Further, with regard to the destruction of moveable property during the operation to demolish the houses, the Court noted that the applicants had neither submitted a complaint nor applied to the national courts for compensation. It therefore rejected this part of the complaint for failure to exhaust the domestic remedies.

Lastly, in the light of the case file, the Court held that the Russian authorities had not hindered the applicants in the exercise of their right of individual application. It consequently held that Russia had not failed to comply with its obligations under Article 34 (right of individual application) of the Convention.


Russia
is a signatory to the ECHR - at least until it suits Putin not to be

The ECHR's remit is therefore considerably wider than the EU - and presumably also covers that bit of Ukraine which is currently occupied by Russia, not to mention:
- Chechnya
-Trans-Dniester
-Nagorno-Karabakh


Which all makes me wonder how far 12 black robed juges sat in the palatial splendour of Strasbourg genuinely believe their writ runs ? :scratch:


Further, given that the ECHR was not adopted until 1950 - and only became binding on the UK when we joined the European Community(Common Market) in 1973 - will there be any attempt by UK to push back on claims under the ECHR, post January 2021 ?

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Were the locals subject to this tax?
If so, expats are being treated no differently from them.
I do note that the tax is on profits, not overall.

Every working taxpayer who is living in France pays them, they are what gets you access to the health and social system.
People who live in the UK and have a holiday home in France are not ex-pats, they are owners of a holiday home in France.
If you are not a tax-resident of France you won't be paying it, as a UK tax-resident you will be dealt with by HMRC.
Those that rent out those places in the summer months will be the ones to be hit if the Impots try it, but I don't think it will be too long before there will be a test case by one of the resident lawyers.
Loads of them own French property, together with a number of retired politicos.
It goes completely against previous French court rulings on this subject, lawyers and judges love precedent case law, saves them a lot of work.
And against the latest double-taxation treaty too.
A treaty between the UK and France, nothing to do with the EU.
And absolutely nothing to do with Brexit or the EU, those legal decisions and treaties were originally made long before the EU ever existed.

Just another Remoaner, moaning.
Another non-story on a slow news day.
 

Goatman

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Hmmmm


'' Russia, like the UK, is a member of the Council of Europe, which oversees the ECHR. To date the court has never awarded punitive or exemplary damages. It is being urged to do so in the exceptional circumstances of this claim and to prevent Russia from continuing its policy of covert elimination.

The legal arguments, submitted by Ben Emmerson QC, who represents Marina Litvinenko, refashion a claim first sent to Strasbourg in 2007 by her then lawyers, one of whom was Keir Starmer QC, now leader of the Labour party.

The UK government is cooperating with the Strasbourg court as it gathers evidence to assess the case. However, it has declined to intervene directly in support of the widow’s claim, partially on the grounds that it could affect the way the court deals with future British cases. ''
 
Not really. Bentley made 11,000 cars last year. Toyota made 150,000 at Burnaston. They'd need a lot of storage to keep two weeks worth of parts for that number of cars.


Most vulnerable companies have increased stockholding in preperation for no deal.
Warehouse space in the UK is in very high demand at he moment and has been all year.
 
Heard on the radio earlier:

"Delivery of the Covid 19 vaccine to the UK may be delayed unless the UK signs a trade deal with the EU."

Couldn't find a source online earlier.
Normal remainer/EU bo**ocks.

Will they ever stop?
 
Heard on the radio earlier:

"Delivery of the Covid 19 vaccine to the UK may be delayed unless the UK signs a trade deal with the EU."

Couldn't find a source online earlier.
Normal remainer/EU bo**ocks.

Will they ever stop?

Funnily enough, some remainer compatriots get hot under the collar ref things like this. They point out that while there will be trade issues, medical supplies won't be delayed or withheld simply because of the ethics involved. It would paint the EU in a very negative light if they did and the mileage Brexiteers would make out of it would defeat its purpose.
 
Heard on the radio earlier:

"Delivery of the Covid 19 vaccine to the UK may be delayed unless the UK signs a trade deal with the EU."

Couldn't find a source online earlier.
Normal remainer/EU bo**ocks.

Will they ever stop?
Obviously we cannot use aircraft to fly the vaccine in.
 
Heard on the radio earlier:

"Delivery of the Covid 19 vaccine to the UK may be delayed unless the UK signs a trade deal with the EU."

Couldn't find a source online earlier.
Normal remainer/EU bo**ocks.

Will they ever stop?

You mean a bit like Hancock stating UK got the vaccine first because they weren't in the EU?
A point hastily classed as a load of crap by the MHRA who said it was all done under the EU regulatory body and even Number 10 said he was talking sh1te.

Normal Brexiteer bollox, Will they ever stop?
 
You mean a bit like Hancock stating UK got the vaccine first because they weren't in the EU?
A point hastily classed as a load of crap by the MHRA who said it was all done under the EU regulatory body and even Number 10 said he was talking sh1te.

Normal Brexiteer bollox, Will they ever stop?
You'll need to qualify that as Hankers is an out and out, remain weirdo.

Whoops!


"Yet the fact is that had the UK remained a member of the EU it would not have been able to approve the vaccine this quickly. As Jens Spahn, the German health minister, explained earlier today, despite the exemption in EU law, EU member states took a collective decision to deploy take a common approach to vaccine approval. As a result of Brexit the UK is not an EU member state and therefore not locked into that common approach…"
 
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crow_bag

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You'll need to qualify that as Hankers is an out and out, remain weirdo.

Whoops!


"Yet the fact is that had the UK remained a member of the EU it would not have been able to approve the vaccine this quickly. As Jens Spahn, the German health minister, explained earlier today, despite the exemption in EU law, EU member states took a collective decision to deploy take a common approach to vaccine approval. As a result of Brexit the UK is not an EU member state and therefore not locked into that common approach…"
So what you are saying is that if we weren't leaving the EU then we'd have had to wait until next year before any vaccines cod be rolled out?

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