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The Brexit Consequences Thread

Have to disagree. If you believe in the Union, its a problem for the whole UK.
Part of me, yes the malicious part, would love to see the morons given what they crave...


Hardly a sign of an independent nation, especially when Shetland and Orkney (and possibly a few other Islands) cut them loose and go for the 'Isle of Man' option with UK.
 
Given the current makeup of anti brexit, socialist parties that inhabit these shores, we'd have ended up with Corbyn as PM but with a handful of useless brexit etc parties that were unable to influence naff all.
Anyway. We had a referendum a few years ago and told them to ram it.
I think the point here is that Labour voters voted for Brexit as well, either way both parties supporters were disappointed with Parliaments antics in trying to ignore what the electorate wanted. the term Parliamentary democracy got a new meaning in the interpretation of MPs, coupled with the term Sovereignty of Parliament.
 
I think the point here is that Labour voters voted for Brexit as well, either way both parties supporters were disappointed with Parliaments antics in trying to ignore what the electorate wanted. the term Parliamentary democracy got a new meaning in the interpretation of MPs, coupled with the term Sovereignty of Parliament.
The Brexit referendum was not a vote along party lines/dogma, and it was this that, in many ways, changed the face of UK politics.
Voters from all parts of the clockface, as well as their elected representatives, voted for or against, but did not necessarily back their local rosette.
Unfortunately, far too many of the professional politicians and MSM commentators, for some reason, couldn’t get their little heads around this notion and have expended a great deal of effort in the intervening years trying to cajole the whole shebang back into the only format their brain cells are conditioned to understand.
 

civvy

Old-Salt
It doesn't matter the size sample.

Five people voting for two parties, three to two and the majority are happy.

Voting for three or more means that two votes could win the vote with three people being disappointed.


Hence Gina miller's 'tactical voting' campaign.

With AV everyone votes until a single party has earned more than 50.1% of the vote.

FPTP means that this level of approval can only be achieved with two contenders. Three parties and 66.6% could be dissatisfied, four parties means almost 75% will be disappointed.

That said, not giving out prizes to losers on school sports days would probably improve matters immensely too.


Have a look at Ken Arrow's work. If there are more than two choices there is no "best" solution where everyone is satisfied.

Arrow's impossibility theorem - Wikipedia
 
How very dare they?
 
How very dare they?
except for Portugal , and being honest every time we've gone through at Lanzarote in the last few years , the border police have checked our passports, and they check them at the hotels (even on caravan sites), and inform the police on line, so will make absolutely no difference
as far as duty free going back to pre EU levels , the wine I usually buy is cheap shite anyway , so instead of 20 bottles @ 2€ 2 bottles (of drinkable stuff that I won't just give away as presents ) @20€ each

p.s. , I mainly drink non EU wine these days as it is , so not a jot of difference... the EU stuff is just not as good, and the good wine bought here is overpriced anyway
 
What's a holiday?
Don't think we've been away for several years. And considering the state of the world at current, and that a lot of peoples finances will be a bit stretched, I would venture holiday's are less of an issue.
I generally holiday in the UK anyhoo, was planning Cornwall this year until all of the covid bollocks kicked off. Meh...
 
When was the last time you shopped in a DF outlet?

For example, a bottle of Aberlour 12 single malt whisky was £42.69 in duty free, but £36 in Asda, while a Diesel Overflow watch was £182.50 in duty free but £125 at Watch Town. A 125ml bottle of Davidoff Cool Water was found to be £29.95 in duty free but £22 at Wilko.

The truth about airport duty free – and why the bargains aren't what they seem

Crack on.....
Airport and ships will have or be able to reduce and complete now.
 
unh hunh

Has the thought ever crossed your fevered brow that Shapps was allowed to trot that out just as negotiations are reaching a rather intense stage?
That's your best? Some Horlicks absent of logic? Figures.

In the event of a "No Deal" we'll be flying under the supervision of EASA and jurisdiction of ECJ in all probability.

Because the EU may decide it is in their interest to extend the current arrangement in a bilateral agreement for a limited period until a full agreement is reached.

Because our air operators may/will have moved their principal base of business to EU and be majority EU owned to continue operating in the EU.
 

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