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The Brexit Consequences Thread

Other EU countries can break laws with impunity, especially the France, but Britain must not.

Or... and this is just a guess, mind you, these laws don't actually exist in the form that they're described, and Britain has (for whatever reason) been blaming Brussels whenever the Government of the day has been caught doing something stupid?

Ahhh.... we didn't f**k up, honest, errrr..... IT WAS BRUSSELS! A nasty Eurocrat made us do it! And the reason that no other EU countries screwed it up is because, is because, ummm, because THEY'RE CHEATS! Yes! That's it, they just don't follow the rules! Right, let's head off down the pub, that was a close one that was...
 
Or... and this is just a guess, mind you, these laws don't actually exist in the form that they're described, and Britain has (for whatever reason) been blaming Brussels whenever the Government of the day has been caught doing something stupid?

Or, alternatively, you could do some research on contentious ECJ judgements.

You might learn something.
 

Oyibo

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Or... and this is just a guess, mind you, these laws don't actually exist in the form that they're described, and Britain has (for whatever reason) been blaming Brussels whenever the Government of the day has been caught doing something stupid?

Ahhh.... we didn't f**k up, honest, errrr..... IT WAS BRUSSELS! A nasty Eurocrat made us do it! And the reason that no other EU countries screwed it up is because, is because, ummm, because THEY'RE CHEATS! Yes! That's it, they just don't follow the rules! Right, let's head off down the pub, that was a close one that was...

Have a read of the paper @Banker posted yesterday:

 
Or... and this is just a guess, mind you, these laws don't actually exist in the form that they're described, and Britain has (for whatever reason) been blaming Brussels whenever the Government of the day has been caught doing something stupid?

Ahhh.... we didn't f**k up, honest, errrr..... IT WAS BRUSSELS! A nasty Eurocrat made us do it! And the reason that no other EU countries screwed it up is because, is because, ummm, because THEY'RE CHEATS! Yes! That's it, they just don't follow the rules! Right, let's head off down the pub, that was a close one that was...

Someone said something about that a while ago.

 
Or... and this is just a guess, mind you, these laws don't actually exist in the form that they're described, and Britain has (for whatever reason) been blaming Brussels whenever the Government of the day has been caught doing something stupid?

Ahhh.... we didn't f**k up, honest, errrr..... IT WAS BRUSSELS! A nasty Eurocrat made us do it! And the reason that no other EU countries screwed it up is because, is because, ummm, because THEY'RE CHEATS! Yes! That's it, they just don't follow the rules! Right, let's head off down the pub, that was a close one that was...

I posted this on the EU thread.....are you so dumb that you think we Brexiteers were unaware that our filthy politicians have been hiding behind the coattails of the EU for the last 40 years and we didn't notice? This was one of the main reasons I voted to leave.
Even if you remove our politicians out of the equation, the EU still isn't an attractive offer of political integration that nobody voted for......except dim people that voted to remain.

Keep swinging.
Do you think we Brexiteers couldn't see that our politicians were hiding behind Brussels coat tails and repeatedly blamed Brussels for crippling diktats and willingly signed anything they thought they could get away with without letting on?
My dear chap, our politicians were the problem that led directly to your highlighted state of affairs at the time.
But we didn't know what we were voting for.
 
And it's POETS day, time for the Remoaners to get triggered and hit the turps early

 

Dread

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And it's POETS day, time for the Remoaners to get triggered and hit the turps early

Thanks for that: sent it a remainiac 'tard on LinkedIn as he was crowing yesterday about JPMorgan moving their Euro funds to Frankfurt and how London was doomed. Sent him the link and the mong blocked me :) So I got a few friends to send him the link.
 
Thanks for that: sent it a remainiac 'tard on LinkedIn as he was crowing yesterday about JPMorgan moving their Euro funds to Frankfurt and how London was doomed. Sent him the link and the mong blocked me :) So I got a few friends to send him the link.
BI has changed its tack then. They used to post weekly anti -Brexit and project fear stories. A favourite link for the belters to post.
 
Just another reason why the NI protocol was wrong.


"A trade body that represents firms making vital medicines has called for a phasing-in period to secure the supply of drugs to NI after the end of 2020.

The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry said it has had no clear guidance on how medicines can move GB-NI once the Brexit extension period ends.

From 1 January, medicines in NI will still be governed by EU rules.

But GB manufacturers say it is unclear what rules they will have to follow.

The chief executive of the ABPI, Richard Torbett, told a Westminster committee that he had concerns that without further clarity, the vital drug supply route across the Irish Sea could face disruption.

"Northern Ireland is the most complicated situation for us right now and there are a number of reasons why, much pharmaceutical product goes to Northern Ireland via Great Britain," he told the committee."
 
Well, that's a tad embarrassing.

'With plans for a UK rival to the EU's Galileo satellite constellation set to be scrapped, influential Tory MP Tobias Ellwood has demanded to know how the £92million allocated towards a feasibility study in 2018 was spent.

'The feasibility study was launched by then-Prime Minister Theresa May in 2018, while Gavin Williamson was Defence Secretary, with the task of looking at options for the UK's own Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS). Mr Ellwood, MP for Bournemouth East, told Express.co.uk: "There needs to be an understanding of what happened to this money. That's a lot of money on a project that many in the military had already raised eyebrows over."


 
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Well, that's a tad embarrassing. (Sorry, can't seem to get rid o the bolding from the headline.)

'With plans for a UK rival to the EU's Galileo satellite constellation set to be scrapped, influential Tory MP Tobias Ellwood has demanded to know how the £92million allocated towards a feasibility study in 2018 was spent.


'The feasibility study was launched by then-Prime Minister Theresa May in 2018, while Gavin Williamson was Defence Secretary, with the task of looking at options for the UK's own Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS). Mr Ellwood, MP for Bournemouth East, told Express.co.uk: "There needs to be an understanding of what happened to this money. That's a lot of money on a project that many in the military had already raised eyebrows over."

I want to know if we're getting any money back, that we put into Galileo.
 
Well, that's a tad embarrassing.

'With plans for a UK rival to the EU's Galileo satellite constellation set to be scrapped, influential Tory MP Tobias Ellwood has demanded to know how the £92million allocated towards a feasibility study in 2018 was spent.

'The feasibility study was launched by then-Prime Minister Theresa May in 2018, while Gavin Williamson was Defence Secretary, with the task of looking at options for the UK's own Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS). Mr Ellwood, MP for Bournemouth East, told Express.co.uk: "There needs to be an understanding of what happened to this money. That's a lot of money on a project that many in the military had already raised eyebrows over."



Demanding transparency and accountability over expenditure is embarrassing?
 
Demanding transparency and accountability over expenditure is embarrassing?

The embarrassment is in having to do so.
Now, it is entirely possible that the investigation spent a large sum of money, but the figures should be available without the MP having to raise it as an issue. Unless of course he hasn't tried too hard to gain access to them.
 
The embarrassment is in having to do so.
Now, it is entirely possible that the investigation spent a large sum of money, but the figures should be available without the MP having to raise it as an issue. Unless of course he hasn't tried too hard to gain access to them.

Accountability is a rare beast in politics.

The next time I spot it I'll post an alert.

Don't hold your breath, though.
 
This one slipped through the net (I think)...

On 8 September 2020, Seaborne Freight went into voluntary liquidation with realisable assets of £2,620 and debts of £2 million.

A ferryless ferry firm that was awarded a £13.8million government contract in December 2018 for extra ‘Brexit-resilience’ crossings has appointed a voluntary liquidator and will go out of business owing almost £2 million.
Seaborne Freight Voluntary Liquidation

The ferry company Seabourne Freight was awarded a £13.8m contract by the government to provide additional ferry capacity despite owning or operating precisely zero ships and despite never having operated any shipping operations ever has gone bust owing its creditors £2m.

Happily, the government contract was cancelled before any public money was paid out. (Lucky escape there then Grayling.)


The Seaborne directors have form for taking businesses to and then down the crapper.

Ben Sharp, the chief executive of Seaborne, previously ran a business that was liquidated owing money to the UK tax authorities. Mercator International owed £1.8m to creditors in the final year for which it filed accounts, which was the year to March 2013.​
Two other directors of Seaborne Freight, Peter Blackmore and Brian Raincock, were also directors of a company called Litigation Protection, which is in liquidation.​
 
This one slipped through the net (I think)...

On 8 September 2020, Seaborne Freight went into voluntary liquidation with realisable assets of £2,620 and debts of £2 million.


Seaborne Freight Voluntary Liquidation

The ferry company Seabourne Freight was awarded a £13.8m contract by the government to provide additional ferry capacity despite owning or operating precisely zero ships and despite never having operated any shipping operations ever has gone bust owing its creditors £2m.

Happily, the government contract was cancelled before any public money was paid out. (Lucky escape there then Grayling.)


The Seaborne directors have form for taking businesses to and then down the crapper.

Ben Sharp, the chief executive of Seaborne, previously ran a business that was liquidated owing money to the UK tax authorities. Mercator International owed £1.8m to creditors in the final year for which it filed accounts, which was the year to March 2013.​
Two other directors of Seaborne Freight, Peter Blackmore and Brian Raincock, were also directors of a company called Litigation Protection, which is in liquidation.​
Fear not, HMG are on the case...

"Four ferry firms have landed government contracts worth a total of £77.6m to provide post-Brexit freight capacity. Brittany Ferries, DFDS, P&O Ferries and Stena Line will have the job of ensuring medical supplies and other vital goods continue to get to the UK."
 
Interesting read here giving '286' reasons why no deal could be our best option:


It's well worth a read, particularly to how the Commission is in a win-win scenario (they get $7 bn worth of revenues from tariffs levied on UK goods).
 

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