The Brexit Consequences Thread

Brotherton Lad

LE
Kit Reviewer
You know that video that we're talking about? Did you watch it? He was talking to you. He was saying that you can remain stuck in the past or you can help shape the future. It's your choice, but if you want a say in the future of Britain then the time to act is now.

Nawaz said he was a firm believer in remaining in the EU, and he campaigned against Brexit. However, he said that Brexit has happened, and in his view it's time to accept that and to move on. He said that whatever political differences he may have with Brexiteers, they are his fellow British citizens and it's time to remember that he has more in common with them than he does with people elsewhere, and that the task now is to find ways of working with them.

What concerns him now is to not leave the shape of Britain's future outside of the EU to the same people who won the referendum, but instead to provide a vision of Britain's future in the world that is compatible with the values he holds. In his view to wallow in nostalgia about the glory days of the EU is to leave the initiative to others. He goes on to describe where he feels that Britain would fit and who Britain's allies should be. In talking about this, he's saying that you need to work with him to build this future.
I enjoy watching a slow motion car crash.
 
One is pleasantly surprised. Extra ginger biscuit with his tea, that man!
 

Trans-sane

LE
Book Reviewer
One is pleasantly surprised. Extra ginger biscuit with his tea, that man!
Indeed one quote from the video (paraphrased due to having watched it 16 hours ago) "no matter what people say about America, they aren't genociding Muslims. Unlike china. Thank you Nigel for your support with the petition"
 

Wordsmith

LE
Book Reviewer
You must have enjoyed Cameron's renegotiation prior to the referendum....

I have never seen a bigger car crash, self inflicted too.....

Oh what could've been with a bit of realism...

Oh dear, how sad, never mind...

JB
The EU knew three crucial facts:
  1. Call Me Dave's heart was never in leaving the EU, so his threats about walking away from the talks carried no credibility
  2. The UK political establishment were almost totally in favour of staying in the EU so would campaign for it
  3. If concessions were granted to the UK, other countries would want them too
So they gave meaningless concessions that were not legally enforceable anyway.

They'd have got away with it too, had it not been for those pesky referendum voters.

Wordsmith
 
There is no concessions to be made when the EU continue to make demands and continue to try and keep the UK subservient by way of the ECJ or some mythical level playing field.

You cannot negotiate with a brick wall.
Just get Bodie and Doyle to demolish the wall in their Ford Capri, job jobbed
 
You're mistaken on all counts. No surprise.
I guess your'e correct I think it's more TYP(H)OO syndrome
Taking Ye Piss out of. I remember you comments about remaining to change from inside. Now that is rose tinted.
Would that have entailed being taken in to the Euro? Would it perhaps have entailed France doing what it should and not "escorting" migrants to British waters in a fit if Pique because they can't fish. Frogs really are proving they are despicable and no-we should not be sending troops to Mali- to underpin their problems there. It's not a NATO problem, it's a UN one.
 
listened to some business bint on the radio this morning talking about the need for British business to start stockpiling EU goods in readiness for a no deal and the terrible delays at the ports etc, she then went onto to say the UK luxury goods sector was looking at a 7Bn loss of trade - what she didn't do for some inexplicable reason (remainer) was point out that the EU buys far more from us than we buy for it! therefore using the same methodology our businesses are going to be inundated with orders from the EU and the EU business sector is going to loss far more than 7Bn in trade.

Faced with those very obvious truths I fully expect both sides politicians are highly motivated to put measures in place to keep things moving smoothly because if they dont then they know they will lose all there backhanders from business and the media will eviscerate them!
 
Grun doing it's bit to stoke up things about Brexit

Number of UK citizens emigrating to EU has risen by 30% since Brexit vote

except , when you read deeper 56k ish UK citizens per year were leaving before Brexit

and it has risen to 73k ish

so, an extra 23k/year over 4 years , no mention of the ones who already lived there , taking foreign citizenship

it also states this [ While the withdrawal agreement signed in January enshrines the residency, work and social rights of EU citizens in the UK and Britons in the rest of the bloc, it failed to guarantee the free movement rights of British migrants, restricting future employment and residency prospects in other member states. ]
 
I enjoy watching a slow motion car crash.
Aye, the EU is the king of slow mo crash management i.e.
1. Refugee crisis that hasn't gone away.
2. The UK reaching peak scepticism and the EUs refusal, to accept it was going to happen and then refusal to negotiate in any good faith, without having complete control.
3. The EU slowly losing all relevance, with the onset of a real crisis(covid).
4. The coming financial crisis ?
 
Grun doing it's bit to stoke up things about Brexit

Number of UK citizens emigrating to EU has risen by 30% since Brexit vote

except , when you read deeper 56k ish UK citizens per year were leaving before Brexit

and it has risen to 73k ish

so, an extra 23k/year over 4 years , no mention of the ones who already lived there , taking foreign citizenship

it also states this [ While the withdrawal agreement signed in January enshrines the residency, work and social rights of EU citizens in the UK and Britons in the rest of the bloc, it failed to guarantee the free movement rights of British migrants, restricting future employment and residency prospects in other member states. ]
They also did some cynical jiggery-pokery with the numbers whereby Brits abroad having or taking up dual nationality were categorised as emigres.
 

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