The Brexit Consequences Thread

Discussion in 'Brexit' started by Sarastro, Jun 25, 2016.

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  1. Better than that - we can persuade the ROW talent to stay (who currently find it difficult) whilst waving cheerio to the EU folks we don't want (but who can stay anyway...)
     
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  2. It's just a pretentious way of playing for time whilst framing an answer.
     
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  3. Hasn't your Mum found you a girlfriend yet?
     
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  4. The UK economy is looking good; growing by 2 per cent last year, and production is increasing, according to the financial press. If you believe the economists - Brexit will be a bit of a scrape and we're not in an ideal position with our housing, centralised government, or skills and training. But the EU has probably made things worse and we're still right to leave. The FT did mention incoming crackdowns on financial sector rules across the 'graveyard bloc', which seems to be in a bit of a mess with bad loans, corruption fines, poor growth, poverty and exclusion. This is their grand design but at least they can claim Antarctica is doing worse than the EU. We may be faring better than that.

    However the UK government and the financial sector will have to invest in jobs, infrastructure and people; unlikely when they're obsessed with politics and economies. We've our own poverty, a struggling NHS " in crisis" and a few run-down towns full of drugs and crime, and slow regeneration, thanks in part to the EU.

    Leaving the continentals will shake them more than it will us; our capitalists and entrepreneurs could do and should do a lot of good not just for themselves but for the country. There also needs to be a positive transitional deal, but we can't afford to fcuk this Brexit up, and tbh: Westminster doesn't impress much so far and the PM will probably lose that High Court case.
     
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  5. We had some of the best Universities in the world long before we joined the EU and have always attracted some of the brightest and best.

    We will continue to attract the brightest and best, not just because of the quality but also because even with fees and costs, ours are still cheaper to attend that many of the competitors particularly in the States.

    Our Universities love attracting foreign talent from Europe because the EU pays. There is no higher ethical motive as far as the Chancellors are concerned - it's all about the money. If the EU still wants to pay (and they will), then students and academics will be welcome.

    Worst case, they all go off in a collective euro-huff then some of our less academic Uni/poly's will close down and our brightest and best will find places at the genuine quality establishments.
     
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  6. Ummm ........I disagree.

    Errrrrr ........It's just a more polished way of beginning speaking without sounding like you are either a bit of an idiot, or Robert Peston.
     
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  7. So er you kind of disagree and Robert Peston is an idiot? Let me think about that.

    If anybody knows what happened to his face - please leave a message.
     
  8. Sorry to be such a pedant.
     
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  9. Well, it's the pretentiousness claim I disagree with.
     
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  10. ?????
     
  11. Well somehow the intellectuals have to square the circle. To take an analogy if they had the perfect circle that would be 360 degrees. In terms of plausibility they achieved maybe 340. The issues are that even if they tried to the universities can't teach everyone. Even in the socialist mantra there's an understanding that not everyone is going to University , thus underlining the everyone is equal principal is crap. Of course you could turn all Schools into Universities and have everyone come out with a scrap of paper that shows you know every thing known to man and produce a load of Higgses, but that would then destroy the cachet of university- wouldn't it?.
     
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  12. Brexit will disrupt EU-UK funded research and agendas, that's what is hurting academia. Talking of socialists, they and many other movements are now common in the Uni system, and the NUS is apparently losing members. Loughborough broke away from the NUS last year amid controversies and gossip. Archived media coverage will presumably show up in a search so you may make your own mind up, but some people can make life unpleasant.

    College certainly wasn't elitist in my time, and Uni didn't teach me anything besides discipline, rules and integrity. The rest was all down to ourselves. As for the "cachet" - anyone with the ability and hard work to meet the standards should have chances at Uni and make their own choices. The problems with elitists and liberalism come when they decide what's best for us, over everything we know ourselves. Early modules include culture, and difference-blind-liberalism, ironically enough. I recall two engaging and instructive tutors or dons, but all that politics and aggro comes at a high price. Uni would probably drive me mad now.
     
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  13. Funny old thing eh....

    The EU has more to lose from Brexit than the UK, the Governor of the Bank of England has said as he admitted that Britain's economy will defy his own gloomy forecasts and grow at a faster rate than expected.

    Mark Carney conceded that Brexit is no longer the biggest domestic risk to Britain's economy after issuing a series of dire warnings about the consequences of a leave vote in the run up to the EU referendum.

    The EU has more to lose from hard Brexit than the UK, Mark Carney says
     
  14. This needs to be explained to bottom feeders:
    I watched the discussion live from start to finish...
    When Carney says "immediate" threat he is not ignoring long term threats... It's all about timing and it's clear that he has been warned about speaking against the government's brexit delusion, a comfort zone that is based upon the current state of our economy against what had been predicted. There are no doubts that we are still in the sh*t but have not reached the tipping point yet because it is probably years away. The same man said this yesterday...

    Carney: Brexit poses 'outsize' risks for UK banks
    Bank of England Governor Mark Carney said Britain's giant financial services industry could suffer "outsize" consequences from losing only some of its access to markets in the European Union when the country leaves the bloc.
     
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