The Brexit Consequences Thread

Sarastro

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Brexit has happened. I am of the opinion that a bad mistake has been made, and it has been based on misrepresented facts, and there will be a lot of broken promises and negative consequences. Many of you clearly disagree.

So let's find out. Let's make this based on the facts as they happen now. Over the next however long, let's keep a tally of things that happen because of Brexit, whether good or bad, and see what turns up. This isn't to judge the Brexit vote, it's too late for that. It's to inform whatever future decisions any of us will make in our voting lives, and to remind ourselves that decisions have consequences, whether good or bad.

1. It has to be a legitimate source. Your mate Dave does not count. News articles do.
2. It has to be factual. No posting about people liking or disliking the idea, and no opinion pieces (unless they quote facts).
3. It has to affect Britain. Clearly there will be consequences world-wide, but this is specifically about whether it was a good idea for Britain. If it doesn't affect Britain, please flag it International as below.
4. Comparisons with campaign claims allowed. Even if it doesn't fit the above two rules, if it fulfills or contradicts a Leave campaign claim, it's specifically allowed (because it was a campaign).
5. Please limit discussion to validity of sources. This isn't a Brexit discussion page, it's a record of events. If you think a source is dodgy, that's fine, but otherwise please just post the facts based on the above.

EDIT: After a suggestion, feel free to report about international consequences, but could you please include a line in the post: International
 
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EU Commission are demanding immediate talks and are not willing to contemplate waiting for three months. BBC, various.
 
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Latvian Civil Service were recalled to work through their holidays: impact on Latvian Government revenues, migration flows and drawing up negotiation position.

The thoughts are that they will have to be strong in negotiations - extract concessions from the UK Govt in future negotiations and not follow the German lead. One thought is that they will fight for Child Benefit to be paid to Latvian children in Latvia!

Secondly, a tiny MS is mobilising it's Civil Service to create an immediate position - they are not waiting for October.

This impacts the UK in therefore not having enough time to prepare position let alone, begin to disengage with all the laws and treaties which will be needed.

I would be very interested to know what other European Arrsers are picking up in their home country press, and the impact it will have on the UK.
 
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Sarastro

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Latvian Civil Service were recalled to work through their holidays: impact on Latvian Government revenues. Migration flows and drawing up negotiation position. Former students.
See rule 3 please mate.
 
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Brexit has happened. I am of the opinion that a bad mistake has been made, and it has been based on misrepresented facts, and there will be a lot of broken promises and negative consequences. Many of you clearly disagree.

So let's find out. Let's make this based on the facts as they happen now. Over the next however long, let's keep a tally of things that happen because of Brexit, whether good or bad, and see what turns up. This isn't to judge the Brexit vote, it's too late for that. It's to inform whatever future decisions any of us will make in our voting lives, and to remind ourselves that decisions have consequences, whether good or bad.

1. It has to be a legitimate source. Your mate Dave does not count. News articles do.
2. It has to be factual. No posting about people liking or disliking the idea, and no opinion pieces (unless they quote facts).
3. It has to affect Britain. Clearly there will be consequences world-wide, but this is specifically about whether it was a good idea for Britain.
4. Comparisons with campaign claims allowed. Even if it doesn't fit the above two rules, if it fulfills or contradicts a Leave campaign claim, it's specifically allowed (because it was a campaign).
5. Please limit discussion to validity of sources. This isn't a Brexit discussion page, it's a record of events. If you think a source is dodgy, that's fine, but otherwise please just post the facts based on the above.
Oh dear........
 

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Not only is it looking like the break up of the U.K. and Norn but lots of pressure and politicking about losing Gibraltar too.

Spain says 'closer to' controlling Gibraltar after Brexit vote

A European PoV.

Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar eye turbulent future

A report from Aus -
Spain seeks co-sovereignty on Gibraltar after Brexit
I think that is interesting because it again shows what things will be brought to the negotiations and national pressure is going to trump German industry, to extract high concessions from the UK
 

Sarastro

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Italian stock market is down 12% and 5 star are asking for a referendum on the euro, which they may well get and win. Five star are on the ascendancy.

M5S wants referendum on euro in Italy - English

Milan bourse plunges -12% after Brexit - English

Oh and I did read some blog from an Italian "high" up in government proposing a deal where British firms can relocate to Italy to access the EU market. Italy as an incentive would reduce red tape, taxes and labour costs to easy the transition for 3 years. This would be the same Italy that is losing its brightest and best companies and young people due to EU issues and Italy being a disaster to do business in.
 

Fang_Farrier

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Minimum pricing for alcohol (well in Scotland), was being held up by appeals to EU courts over free trade type arguments.
It can now go ahead.
 
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