The Bowman Plan

#1
Been in TA sigs (2 bgde) for 4 years. All I've ever done is Bowman HF FF and its boring me witless. Our Sqn has asked about 3G FF, 3G ALE or even possible sending data (gasp!!!) but bgde always comes back with the same crap I.e they need to build a Bowman plan or anything else is too complicated for the TA. Does anyone know how complicated this plan is? Do we need a plan to do anything more with Bowman? I have never even turned on a UDT?!
 
#2
:S

Bowman HF FF? That's it?

Christ. The whole setting up of UDTs is a frustrating business in itself, at least it was when I did it last - they were temperamental at best.

As far as I know it's the Bowman System Manager that deals with making the plans and stuff.
 
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#6
Data will flow over HF but really slowly. If you are going to do point to point stuff you can write in a TDS link which I think is a more efficient way of passing data but does need a more complicated plan.

It really depends on what kit you have available but your Bde YofS should really help you out.
 
#7
The Bowman Plan, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
 
#9
Been in TA sigs (2 bgde) for 4 years. All I've ever done is Bowman HF FF and its boring me witless. Our Sqn has asked about 3G FF, 3G ALE or even possible sending data (gasp!!!) but bgde always comes back with the same crap I.e they need to build a Bowman plan or anything else is too complicated for the TA. Does anyone know how complicated this plan is? Do we need a plan to do anything more with Bowman? I have never even turned on a UDT?!
Yes you do need a plan for Bowman data to work however I know the Bde plan doesn't support it. To write the Bde Bowman plan would not take very long half a day but from my experience of TA operators they need to learn to crawl before they try running.
 
#11
Depends who wrote it :)
I'm saying nothing! ...other than it wasn't me that wrote it ... and that my last was paraphrasing a YoS from my previous posting where he was famous (or is it infamous?) for not being able to fathom why his HF frequency allocation didn't work during the night but "miraculously started working at first light"
 
#12
I'm saying nothing! ...other than it wasn't me that wrote it ... and that my last was paraphrasing a YoS from my previous posting where he was famous (or is it infamous?) for not being able to fathom why his HF frequency allocation didn't work during the night but "miraculously started working at first light"
Which unit was that?
 
#13
I.e they need to build a Bowman plan or anything else is too complicated for the TA.
Which is why some of us wanted to retain the Pinz trucks and the Lock radios - Some of us had plans to use the ALE, etc features and get TCP/IP data networks data across it. (It would have avoided the 'too complicated for TA' label, yet be quite complicated)
 
#14
Which is why some of us wanted to retain the Pinz trucks and the Lock radios - Some of us had plans to use the ALE, etc features and get TCP/IP data networks data across it. (It would have avoided the 'too complicated for TA' label, yet be quite complicated)
Any system is complicated until you start pushing buttons and playing but there is a reluctance to do this with regards Bowman and that goes for regular soldiers as well as TA.
 
#16
I think it's knowing or having a good idea which button to press and not being able to. It's running/training at the pace of the slowest soldier - one solution to this is obvious
 
#18
I think it's knowing or having a good idea which button to press and not being able to. It's running/training at the pace of the slowest soldier - one solution to this is obvious
Agreed but people seem very reluctant to gain the knowledge of what button to press
 
#19
Apparently we aren't allowed to shoot them anymore....

I get very frustrated with the lack of training, we have managed to find lots of things out (and make them work) and I have no idea why we can't do data. The usual bollocks of the 'TA can't cope' or 'skill fade' are just that bollocks, or is it that the ARABS don't want us to know just how easy it is!! Or perhaps brigade can't work out how to put in the plan...

I think it's knowing or having a good idea which button to press and not being able to. It's running/training at the pace of the slowest soldier - one solution to this is obvious
 
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#20
Apparently we aren't allowed to shoot them anymore....

I get very frustrated with the lack of training, we have managed to find lots of things out (and make them work) and I have no idea why we can't do data. The usual bollocks of the 'TA can't cope' or 'skill fade' are just that bollocks, or is it that the ARABS don't want us to know just how easy it is!! Or perhaps brigade can't work out how to put in the plan...
Change capbadges! Ironically, now using more radio and advanced kit then when in RSIGNALS TA.

No guff about "too complicated for the TA" here.

That is an arguement used by the lazy, ignorant and ill informed, to avoid doing work.
 
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