"the black-helicopter crowd"

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Via the wacked out STSOZ
Paul Krugman succinctly sums up the relationship among Fox News, Rightist Talk Radio, political extremism and now murders. He says in passing, “And at this point, whatever dividing line there was between mainstream conservatism and the black-helicopter crowd seems to have been virtually erased.”
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Dr Strauss (deceased) goes on to describe how The Movement i.e. the raving right of the GOP has practically hollowed the what was a big tent party out. He has a point here. What the GOP isn't doing is shifting towards the center to challenge the Bush lite conservatism of President Barry. The phrase "circular firing squad" tends to be used by moderate insiders. It looks more and like angry despair when faced with this sort of thing.


The Doctor concludes:
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Krugman just touched on three overriding conversations critical to the nation: (i) can the rump Movement ever be reconciled to participating in a liberal democratic society?; (ii) what is the price we pay for a enfeebled ‘Republican Party’ host shell paralyzed by more powerful parasite Movement?; and (iii) how can American liberal democracy be served if the media itself really doesn’t understand what it is reporting — *or more damningly* — won’t?
It's bad, real bad. I'd not be sanguine about a US with one right wing party with a history of starting wars and an unelectable far right opposition. The likely outcome in the longer term is the emergence of a third party.

You've got to worry when Shepard Smith Calls Out "More and More Frightening" Fox E-mailers.

The freemarket Reagan era economic project has spectacularly crashed and burned, deficit has ballooned out of control under Bush, at some point someones going to have to pay taxes and it ain't going to be just the grand kids to cap it off there's a dusky way too cool Hawaiian in the oval office.

Somethings just snapped in the politics of honky grievance. There's a growing tide of crazy out in the Red States. The gun shops are running out of 9mm Parabellum. We've had a couple of far right terrorist acts in the past few weeks. Expect more, much more.
 
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alib said:
The likely outcome in the longer term is the emergence of a third party.
I have to agree with you there. When the latest surveys show only around 20% of the electorate admitting to being a Republican, it doesn't take the brains of an Archbishop to see just how many people feel that at least one of the two major parties does not conform with their views.

The majority of Americans (even here in the clown palace that is the Tick's Arrse) appear to be fairly moderate, both fiscally and socially. Sadly, the professional screamers dominate the airwaves and and blogosphere, giving a somewhat skewed picture as they jostle for notoriety. With the mass of moderate Republicans feeling both disenfranchised and increasingly horrified by the constant loud bangs/smell of cordite and burning shoe-leather from the GOP, and the increasing number of Democrats who shudder at the self-serving stridency of Pelosi and the other "more liberal than thou" mob, I can quite easily see the formation of a third, and possibly electable centrist party (not forgetting that Obama is a centrist too; he just used the Democratic nomination process to get into the WH).

Of course, I don't get a vote, but I do (ahem) pay taxes to Uncle Sam...

...and not Ross Perot again; please!
 
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PsyWar.Org said:
How did that old saying go again, "No taxation without representation"!?
I'm sure that at the time they said it, they were utterly sincere. XD
 

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...and not Ross Perot again; please!
What did you have against him? From what I can remember he seemed like a good egg.
 
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Flight said:
What did you have against him? From what I can remember he seemed like a good egg.
Oh my God! He's got to you too.....Damn you, Perot!! :omg:
 
#9
Hi as one of those right wing republicans Mr Krugmen is so afraid of let me you give you my take on the matter.

Mr Krugman is a economist and as such he knows just how bad things are going to get for the US economy in the next year are so. He also knows Obama has promised quick results on the economy that he wont be able to deliver. Once Obamas failure to deliver on the economy becomes apparent to the american public Obama and the democrat party will suffer politicaly for spiralling the budget deficet into the two trillion dollar range without having acomplished anything. His objective in this article it try and deligitmize the main opostion to the Obama adminstration. This is in order to buy time for some form economic turn around to happen.

As for political violence in the past few weeks we have had.

A Neo Nazi attack a holocaust memorial killing one person.
A Anti Abortion activist killed a doctor that preforms late term abortions.
A Muslim convert killed a army recruiter outside a recruiting station and them claimed his action were justified because of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The above actions seems to cover a very large political spectrum with all of them falling well out of the acepted political bounds of both republican and democratic partys. Mr Krugman trying to link two of those acts to the republican party is both digusting political demogoguery and a lie.

Politicaly at the moment the republican party is leaderless with the main spokemens being Dick Chenny and John McCain but there is no strong leader at the moment able to speak for the whole party. Rush Limbaugh and Fox news are the current source of much complaining by the Obama adminstration because they refuse to toe the line from the whitehouse. They both are also focused on ratings and place that before any loyality to the republican party and as such can not be considered to represent republican party. It also needs to be noted that both Fox and Rush are thriving in the Obama era inspite of being constantly called mean bad people by the whitehouse.
 
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palin for 2012 just for laughs
 
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Siddar said:
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Politicaly at the moment the republican party is leaderless with the main spokemens being Dick Chenny and John McCain but there is no strong leader at the moment able to speak for the whole party. Rush Limbaugh and Fox news are the current source of much complaining by the Obama adminstration because they refuse to toe the line from the whitehouse. They both are also focused on ratings and place that before any loyality to the republican party and as such can not be considered to represent republican party. It also needs to be noted that both Fox and Rush are thriving in the Obama era inspite of being constantly called mean bad people by the whitehouse.
You forgot Newt "We are living in a period where we are surrounded by paganism." Gingrich.

Obama is a dream come true for both Limbaugh and Fox. Barry's perfect foil for their entertaining shtick. The Hawaiian presses far more panic buttons in their niche audiences psyche than Slick Willy's over friendly penis ever did. These guys aren't so much in opposition as eagerly imagining bending over before him and grabbing their ankles. But if Fox are worried by the violent wingnut fantasists battering their inbox I do wonder what rabid ravings Limbaugh is subjected to?

TAC has The War on Hate on the fearful liberal response.

Here's Limbaugh offering a stout defense of "hate-speech": Hate-Promoting Left Seizes Chance to Falsely Blame Right for Violence
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We have an administration that's inspiring all of this, pitting groups of people against one another. Taking unfortunate incidents like this yesterday at the Holocaust Museum in Washington and making a political tool out of it. It's not possible that this deranged nutjob Jew hater pulled the trigger on his own. No, this guy had to have been influenced by somebody and of course that somebody had to be the right wing. Then you look at who the guy hated and you find out that he hates the same people that a bunch of militant leftists hate. And he believes in a bunch of leftists conspiracies, 9/11 an inside job, Bush knew. Just like the black poet laureate in New Jersey wrote. The Jews knew about it. All the Jews in the World Trade Center got out of the building before the planes hit. The Jews are behind it. That guy was not only not denounced, we were told we had to understand his rage. This guy that pulled the trigger yesterday believed with that nutjob poet laureate in New Jersey, who, make no mistake about it, is no conservative or Republican. Republican Party, you're looking for something to run on, all you need is a slogan: We're not the Democrats. We're not the Democrats. It's all you need to say about yourselves.
Surely it should be: "We are not Democrat Socialists"? How could the GOP lose with such confident negativism?
 

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