The bit in brackets after various ranks

#1
Please leave now if you are easily bored. I am, hence starting this...

Ok, so I'm talking about the bit in brackets that comes after various soldier ranks. I came accross one today, and had no idea what it meant. They seem to start at Sgt (unless I'm mistaken) and increase up to WO1. So, is there a list somewhere of official nice bits you can add to your rank? Lets say I'm a driving instructor, could I be SSgt(DI)? I really hope not.

So, I can think of...

Sgt(SI)
Sgt(RSI)
SSgt(FofS)
SSgt(SSI)
SSgt(YofS)
WO2(SQMS)
WO2(RQMS)
WO2(BSM)
WO2(CSM)
WO2(SSM)
WO2(QMSI)
WO2(TQMS)
WO1(SMI)
WO1(RSM)
WO1(GSM)

I'm sure there's many more, but I'm bored now. Do RAWO's and RCWO's put that after their rank? If not, why not?
 
#2
They are official appointments within a unit, an example is that in my unit we have 2X WO2's per sub unit the first is WO2 Bloggs the second is WO2 (BSM) Bloggs. The first could be senior time served to the Second but the job of the second makes him senior.
 
#3
Only Warrant Officers should have an appointment in brackets. SSgts and below may hold a regimental appointment but this is only displayed in the signature block after name, rank.

Although I a 3 years out of date.
 
#4
Most of those abbreviations are in Arrsepedia if you really want to know, it's simply a way of showing what "official" job that person has, to differentiate them from others of the same rank.

Cpl (Retd.)
 
#5
So, you are on an Army (sort of) website, you've been here for over 400 posts, and now you are asking such a bone-headed question?

This has to be the most pathetic attempt at a Wah/wind-up I've seen here. Feeble effort.
 
#6
So, you are on an Army (sort of) website, you've been here for over 400 posts, and now you are asking such a bone-headed question?

This has to be the most pathetic attempt at a Wah/wind-up I've seen here. Feeble effort.
Why is it a bone question?
 
#7
Why is it a bone question?
Well, it is quite a well known phenomenon, putting appointment after rank. Something most people pick up fairly quickly after seeing it once or twice.
 
#9
Sgt(SI)
Sgt(RSI)
SSgt(FofS)
SSgt(SSI)
SSgt(YofS)
WO2(SQMS)
WO2(RQMS)
WO2(BSM)
WO2(CSM)
WO2(SSM)
WO2(QMSI)
WO2(TQMS)
WO1(SMI)
WO1(RSM)
WO1(GSM)
My Bold : Are ACF ranks. Although the convention we are told to use in any communication that goes out beyond the ACF is print full name, and below that Sergeant Instructor, Staff Sgt Instructor etc; as the rank held is only honorary, although there are separate pay rates for each ACF rank.

I've never heard of a Quarter Master Sgt Instructor, as the ACF equivalent is an appointment called Cdt Admin Assistant and wear a crown with laurel wreath badge. QMSI may be something else entirely. Acronyms are not unique across the Forces

WO1(SMI), if an ACF appointment, is a bit cheeky too. The correct term is Regimental Sgt Maj Instr (RMSI) as ACF Warrant Officers don't actually exist so don't get warrants.
 
#10
My Bold : Are ACF ranks. Although the convention we are told to use in any communication that goes out beyond the ACF is print full name, and below that Sergeant Instructor, Staff Sgt Instructor etc; as the rank held is only honorary, although there are separate pay rates for each ACF rank.

I've never heard of a Quarter Master Sgt Instructor, as the ACF equivalent is an appointment called Cdt Admin Assistant and wear a crown with laurel wreath badge. QMSI may be something else entirely. Acronyms are not unique across the Forces

WO1(SMI), if an ACF appointment, is a bit cheeky too. The correct term is Regimental Sgt Maj Instr (RMSI) as ACF Warrant Officers don't actually exist so don't get warrants.
The SASC, among others, have QMSIs and SMIs.
 
#11
WO1(SMI), if an ACF appointment, is a bit cheeky too. The correct term is Regimental Sgt Maj Instr (RMSI) as ACF Warrant Officers don't actually exist so don't get warrants.
SMI's are present in the big boys proper army
 
#12
Only Warrant Officers should have an appointment in brackets. SSgts and below may hold a regimental appointment but this is only displayed in the signature block after name, rank.

Although I a 3 years out of date.
Foreman and Yeoman of Signals SSgts have had their appointment in brackets for as long as I can remember. Dunno about whether they're allowed or all of them have been breaking the rules since I joined up though.
 
#13
My Bold : Are ACF ranks. Although the convention we are told to use in any communication that goes out beyond the ACF is print full name, and below that Sergeant Instructor, Staff Sgt Instructor etc; as the rank held is only honorary, although there are separate pay rates for each ACF rank.

I've never heard of a Quarter Master Sgt Instructor, as the ACF equivalent is an appointment called Cdt Admin Assistant and wear a crown with laurel wreath badge. QMSI may be something else entirely. Acronyms are not unique across the Forces

WO1(SMI), if an ACF appointment, is a bit cheeky too. The correct term is Regimental Sgt Maj Instr (RMSI) as ACF Warrant Officers don't actually exist so don't get warrants.

Utter bollox

You tell a WO2 (QMSI) of the RAPTC that he is a cadet instructor fella

SI can also refer to a Schools Instructor ie at the RAC Gunnery school or D&M school. Ie Gunnery Instructor Sgt (SI) xxx
 
#14
My Bold : Are ACF ranks. Although the convention we are told to use in any communication that goes out beyond the ACF is print full name, and below that Sergeant Instructor, Staff Sgt Instructor etc; as the rank held is only honorary, although there are separate pay rates for each ACF rank.

I've never heard of a Quarter Master Sgt Instructor, as the ACF equivalent is an appointment called Cdt Admin Assistant and wear a crown with laurel wreath badge. QMSI may be something else entirely. Acronyms are not unique across the Forces

WO1(SMI), if an ACF appointment, is a bit cheeky too. The correct term is Regimental Sgt Maj Instr (RMSI) as ACF Warrant Officers don't actually exist so don't get warrants.
UTTER SHIT- sprog
 
#15
In Cavalry regiments where a SSgt might be appointed as a Tp Comd (we used to have one per Sqn) He would be referred to as SSgt(TSM). TSM = Troop Sergeant Major and dates back to donkey walloping days.
 
#17
My Bold : Are ACF ranks. Although the convention we are told to use in any communication that goes out beyond the ACF is print full name, and below that Sergeant Instructor, Staff Sgt Instructor etc; as the rank held is only honorary, although there are separate pay rates for each ACF rank.

I've never heard of a Quarter Master Sgt Instructor, as the ACF equivalent is an appointment called Cdt Admin Assistant and wear a crown with laurel wreath badge. QMSI may be something else entirely. Acronyms are not unique across the Forces

WO1(SMI), if an ACF appointment, is a bit cheeky too. The correct term is Regimental Sgt Maj Instr (RMSI) as ACF Warrant Officers don't actually exist so don't get warrants.
Thirded, this is total bollocks. I don't know where to begin with what's wrong with this.

The appointments you highlighted are in use across the Army. As other posters have mentioned, QMSIs are in use in the RAPTC and SASC, for example. The ACF do not hold "honorary" ranks, the AI "ranks" are, more correctly, appointments specific to the organisation.

I've seen SI, SSI, SMI etc used by those holding training appointments in Regiments, although I'm not 100% on how official they are, I'd have to check QRs. They are certainly in common usage.

CAAs do not only wear the laurel wreath. They can also be commissioned and hold the TA General List Type B rank of Lt.
 
#18
I never understood cavalry ranks they were all "corporal of horse" of some description from lance jacks to CSM's.
Only household cavalry.
 
#20
It may be bone, but its not a wah, and had caused some debate!

WO1(WM) Scavenger
 

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