The Biggest TW*T That Ive Ever Seen.

#1
Basically, thread on Rememberance Day comes up on another forum.

This complete tit starts posting. For example:

Solidarity from me would only go to those who were conscripted into the army, those who had no choice...those who fell victim to war after volunteering to fight do not get my sympathy.
And, after several people called him an idiot, and to feck off elsewhere to the proper debating section if he wanted to sprout crap like that.

After i'd used a few choice quotes(irritatingly, you can't get away with insulting people outright - the mods are a little... overzealous perhaps), that being the reason, the key one being:

"We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm." - Winston Churchill
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Cockface then comes back with:

Orite, I won't go into a discussion about what I've said unless I see a political thread on this topic, but will say a few things before I stop, bringing up quotes from Winston Churchill won't convince me, in addition, I didn't ask for anyone to "protect my freedom", my freedom is already restricted due to the class system and government, and the army, throughout history have been used to repress my freedom...hence why even the American revolutionaries supported the use of non-permanent civilian militia as opposed to a standing army (voluntary or not).

If you volunteer for the army, you do so for a reason (or a few), yes, there is an economic factor in doing so, however, the whole point of armies is to oppress and kill, whether that be militias or standing armies. If you volunteer to join an army, you volunteer to become a killer if needed (by the government).

My apologies however, for raining on your parade, I'll leave this thread be now...and my commemorations for unwilling victims of the First World War, and the Second World War.
TWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Seriously, i can't believe how stupid people can be - from the comments, i'm believing its a Yank, so that might explain it. Partially. :roll:
 
#2
This is the downside of winning two world war's mate pricks like this get to spout their socialist dogma all because of two generations sacrifice. Makes you wonder why they bothered sometimes
 
#4
billy.winky said:
The quote is from Orwell. And it actually has more impact on lefties coming from him.
Misquoted. He never actually said that - or at least, theres no record of it.

But maybe i shoulda put that it was, per the common misconception... Like you say, it would have more impact on the tossers... :wink:
 
#5
I can't tell you about the biggest twat I've ever seen ....she might kill me. But we did both enjoy it. Talking of which, has anybody else noticed that Doh-Nut and Caitlin are conspicuous by their absence recently?
 

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#6
Firstly, I thought this thread was going to be about Russel Brand.

Orite, I won't go into a discussion about what I've said unless I see a political thread on this topic, but will say a few things before I stop, bringing up quotes from Winston Churchill won't convince me, in addition, I didn't ask for anyone to "protect my freedom", my freedom is already restricted due to the class system and government, and the army, throughout history have been used to repress my freedom...hence why even the American revolutionaries supported the use of non-permanent civilian militia as opposed to a standing army (voluntary or not).

If you volunteer for the army, you do so for a reason (or a few), yes, there is an economic factor in doing so, however, the whole point of armies is to oppress and kill, whether that be militias or standing armies. If you volunteer to join an army, you volunteer to become a killer if needed (by the government).
Secondly, he say's this like its a bad thing.
 
#7
Leaving aside his wibble about the class system and government, is anything he said actually untrue as opposed to just a different perspective to the one we normally like to put? It may not be on the adverts - you never saw Frank bayonetting a Fuzzy-Wuzzy - but we are actually the paid killers of the Crown. It's pretty much the job description.

If you don't think the Army would be used against the civil population, you don't know your history. There hasn't been a major change in the UK political landscape in the last 300 years that wasn't accompanied by massive civil disorder and violence, and the Army always had a hand in putting it down. Hell, they even put tanks on the streets during WW1 when it looked as if there was going to be a breakdown in public order over battle casualties and rationing.
 
#8
scrofula said:
I can't tell you about the biggest t**t I've ever seen ....she might kill me. But we did both enjoy it. Talking of which, has anybody else noticed that Doh-Nut and Caitlin are conspicuous by their absence recently?
Hmm, thats a point...

*Thinks*

Oh gods, that was an image i never want to visualise again. :x

smartascarrots said:
Leaving aside his wibble about the class system and government, is anything he said actually untrue as opposed to just a different perspective to the one we normally like to put? It may not be on the adverts - you never saw Frank bayonetting a Fuzzy-Wuzzy - but we are actually the paid killers of the Crown. It's pretty much the job description.

If you don't think the Army would be used against the civil population, you don't know your history. There hasn't been a major change in the UK political landscape in the last 300 years that wasn't accompanied by massive civil disorder and violence, and the Army always had a hand in putting it down. Hell, they even put tanks on the streets during WW1 when it looked as if there was going to be a breakdown in public order over battle casualties and rationing.
While i agree, it was more in the manner in which it was said that pissed me, and several others, off.

I admit - there were times when the Army has been used for less that... desirable... purposes, in a thread on Remembrance Day, you'd think that they'd keep that to themselves wouldn't you?
 
#10
I'm a bit of a mercenary really. £££££££££'s !

However, come the next big war, would I defend his freedom ? Yes
Would I defend his Home, his property ? Yes.
Would I protect his family ? Yes
Would I defend his life ? Would I feck ! I'd use him as a human shield and sell all his posessions !
 
#11
Ohh, developments...

I get a PM - i know i should have left this moronic imbecile to rot, but i couldn't help it.

Hey, if you don't mind, could I address your points through PMs, as I have already stated my intention not to post any further in that topic out of respect for the other posters.

So.. that makes you several hundred years old, correct? rolleyes.gif

The army has never been used, within the last... Oh, within 100 years, in the States to oppress. In Europe, well, it's a different kettle of fish (Bosnia etc.). I suggest you get some real experiance of LIFE, in the present decade or so, and stop buying into "My government is opressing me, the army is, you are... etc, etc.". It's a load of codswallop, and people will think you're a prat.
Literary mistake of mine, merely meant to say freedoms in general.

In addition, I think you need to do some more research on that matter;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

Not only that, but the issue is not the amount of times the armed forces have been used to oppress clearly, they are there as an oppressive force, to be used, if needed by the state. Not only that, but the armed forces are a force of oppression, if not currently within their own borders, then externally. Britain in Northern Ireland for example, Bosnia, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

Missing defending liberty there, along with protection. The entire point of the armed forces is to Protect. Not anything else.
Liberty has never been the concern for standing armed forces. I believe even Franklin referred to a standing army as the largest threat to liberty. I'm in full support of militias, and even with them, I will tend to only give my support to workers' militias, such as those that were active in Spain 36', merely because of my politics.

The standing army evolved out of the need to oppress certain classes in society, and/or to oppress other national powers. Babylon, Egypt, Rome, onto modern day examples. Hussain in Iraq for example, used his own army to exterminate thousands of Shi'ah muslims, and those who opposed him.

1st world war, fair enough. Second, no, you REALLY need to read up on history before you start spouting rubbish like that. And anyway - doesn't matter whether they were willing or not, they die in the same way, and still do die in the same way, no matter what their creed is.
Really? The Red Poppy fund commemorates those who fought under British leadership, whether that was from Britain or the commonwealth. Conscription in Britain was introduced in 1916 for the First World War, and ended in 1918. It was 1938 when conscription formally began again in Britain with the threat of war with Nazi Germany imminent.

As the thread was concerning the Red Poppy and the commemoration of British Legion soldiers, what I said was entirely relevant. You do some research.

Hmm, at least i didn't start calling him every name under the sun, as i was very damn close to doing so... dry.gif
Go ahead, it won't affect me. My politics is my choice, and I'm not going to be deterred by any slurs, perhaps reasoned arguments, but not ad hominem attacks.
Now, at that time, i couldn't quite frankly be arsed to reply.

However, i then get this.

So I guess you aren't going to reply to my counter arguments to your points??? Fair enough.

Sadly, i don't think my responses were saved..

Which was disappointing to say the least. Some of the lines were even on a par with Flashy... Minus some of the swearing...
 

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