The Biden Presidency

[LordVonHarley]

Did I say you said she was lying?

No.

Bacongrills did. (say she was lying, and misrepresented what was actually said in the context of 500k/day)

He was wrong.

He should have spent 30 seconds fact checking what he saw on facebook.

That's it fella.

So how many Americans got vaccinated in the last 7 days of Trumps Administration?

 

[stacker1]

Remind me when Trumps Administration implemented the China travel restrictions in 2020?
Can you also remind me why those travel restrictions where implemented?
What about all the other travel restrictions?

Not really the actions of a man who did not take Covid-19 seriously.

Did Trump down play Covid-19 or did he not want to spread panic? Who really knows, but given the amount of heavily armed religious nutters in the US who long for the End of Days it could have ended a lot worse.

Now back to Transport. Why do you not think America will not see similar results to Europe in 2-3 weeks of the mandate?

What are your views on Biden breaking his own mask rules only a short time after making them?

Also remember that Covid deaths per million were normally more in 10 (mainly) European countries (including the Uk) than the USA, but it wasnt advertised on UK/US media very much.

 

[ABNredleg]

Remind me when Trumps Administration implemented the China travel restrictions in 2020?
Can you also remind me why those travel restrictions where implemented?
What about all the other travel restrictions?

Not really the actions of a man who did not take Covid-19 seriously.

Did Trump down play Covid-19 or did he not want to spread panic? Who really knows, but given the amount of heavily armed religious nutters in the US who long for the End of Days it could have ended a lot worse.

Now back to Transport. Why do you not think America will not see similar results to Europe in 2-3 weeks of the mandate?

What are your views on Biden breaking his own mask rules only a short time after making them?

Sorry, but I’m going to bow out of this conversation. We’ll just end up going in circles and never reach any resolution, like most Internet conversations. I’m going to pour a beer, cook some Chinese, and focus on the real world.

To be honest, the last six months has soured me on politics and I think it’s time to take a sabbatical.

 

[Steamboat]

Sorry, but I’m going to bow out of this conversation. We’ll just end up going in circles and never reach any resolution, like most Internet conversations. I’m going to pour a beer, cook some Chinese, and focus on the real world.

To be honest, the last six months has soured me on politics and I think it’s time to take a sabbatical.

Happy Birthday, well that will be next week. But get yourself something cool and do something epic.

 

[ABNredleg]

Happy Birthday, well that will be next week. But get yourself something cool and do something epic.

Thanks - greatly appreciated. My options are limited at the moment so we’ll probably splurge on some takeout.

 

[Tedsson]

To be honest, the last six months has soured me on politics and I think it’s time to take a sabbatical.

Good.

You coming on here making sensible points, posting facts, real information and on the ground reporting was a disgrace to the site.

 

[Fr SpodoKomodo]

So how many Americans got vaccinated in the last 7 days of Trumps Administration?

I don't particularly care. You're making an issue out of something I didn't actually say. I've never said anything about that. I was correcting his misinformed claim that the press sec was lying. She wasn't. That's it.

 

[Steamboat]

Thanks - greatly appreciated. My options are limited at the moment so we’ll probably splurge on some takeout.

On a serious genuine note. Don’t you have a smoker?

 

[headgear]

I don’t understand. Why is it unconstitutional?

because impeachment of a President has to be a sitting President not an ex President. Impeachment is not a criminal matter, merely procedural within an organisation. There's also the small matter of the House breaking its own procedures in rushing through an impeachment in 8 hours without carrying out an investigation - since 6 Jan the FBI has now stated that the attack on the capitol was organised days and weeks before Trump made his speech on the day and it was done using Twitter and Facebook - not Parler which was blamed and shutdown. Lastly, Trump only asked the rally to peacefully and patriotically support the representatives raising their election objections - by the way the Dems representative's have also done that on Republican Presidential candidates and they were not called traitors or insurrectionists. Trumps speech was more than covered by the 1st Amdt. Even left leaning constitutional lawyers, Dershowitz and Jonathon Turley and many others agree that the Presidents speech did not constitute incitement according to US law.

 

[ABNredleg]

On a serious genuine note. Don’t you have a smoker?

I have a grill with a smoker box but not a true smoker. There are so many good barbecue joints around here that I never felt the need to spend the money.

 

[Steamboat]

I have a grill with a smoker box but not a true smoker. There are so many good barbecue joints around here that I never felt the need to spend the money.

Well we don’t out here, so it is just another self discipline. But honestly it is a hobby that does provide immense satisfaction. I would recommend giving it a go, not quite the same as wacking a wall hanger, but it is something to do.

 

[Goatman]

So how many Americans got vaccinated in the last 7 days of Trumps Administration?

...because, by way of 'Compare & Contrast - 480,000 Brits got inoculated TODAY.....

 

[MuddyOldEngineer]

Sorry, but I’m going to bow out of this conversation. We’ll just end up going in circles and never reach any resolution, like most Internet conversations. I’m going to pour a beer, cook some Chinese, and focus on the real world.

To be honest, the last six months has soured me on politics and I think it’s time to take a sabbatical.

Would you consider coming back once a month to give us some ground truth ? It would add to Steamboat and Sam the Bam

 

[LordVonHarley]

Sorry, but I’m going to bow out of this conversation. We’ll just end up going in circles and never reach any resolution, like most Internet conversations. I’m going to pour a beer, cook some Chinese, and focus on the real world.

To be honest, the last six months has soured me on politics and I think it’s time to take a sabbatical.

No worries I understand, but if you have only been soured by the last 6 months just wait until your have 3 decades of political hypocrisy under your belt and you will be just as cynical as us Brits in US politics.

Biden is your last chance to show America that socialist policies can make life better for Americans. At the moment the DNC is showing that they are just as bad as the GOP with the amount of political spin and BS and it's not even been a full week. To be honest, DNC damaging the idea of democratic socialism if it can not be honest with all Americans.

I know that the DNC is never going to be anywhere near as left wing as European mainstream left wing parties, but you need to keep it honest by not being afraid to criticize it's short comings and BS.

Enjoy your scoff and beer. ;0)

 

[LordVonHarley]

I don't particularly care. You're making an issue out of something I didn't actually say. I've never said anything about that. I was correcting his misinformed claim that the press sec was lying. She wasn't. That's it.

Come on, play the game and speak truth to power.

Biden wants to vaccinate a million Americans a day. How much more of an improvement will that be against Trumps last week in power?
50%?
20%?
10%?
5%?
Exactly the same amount as Trump managed?

Biden has entered power swinging his balls about giving it "The Big I Am!".
If he turns out to be another political BS artist like Trump he is going to get a serious hammering at the midterms.

 

[tommikka]

because impeachment of a President has to be a sitting President not an ex President. Impeachment is not a criminal matter, merely procedural within an organisation. There's also the small matter of the House breaking its own procedures in rushing through an impeachment in 8 hours without carrying out an investigation - since 6 Jan the FBI has now stated that the attack on the capitol was organised days and weeks before Trump made his speech on the day and it was done using Twitter and Facebook - not Parler which was blamed and shutdown. Lastly, Trump only asked the rally to peacefully and patriotically support the representatives raising their election objections - by the way the Dems representative's have also done that on Republican Presidential candidates and they were not called traitors or insurrectionists. Trumps speech was more than covered by the 1st Amdt. Even left leaning constitutional lawyers, Dershowitz and Jonathon Turley and many others agree that the Presidents speech did not constitute incitement according to US law.

That’s an argument that has been raised, but isn’t necessarily the case.
Trump was president when the process began, (he still is president according to ipsos barshit buddies, and the constitution doesn’t state an ex president cannot be impeached - it relates to conduct in office

The Constitution's Option for Impeachment After a President Leaves Office

Top impeachment law scholar discusses the options for the 117th Congress.

www.justsecurity.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/23/can-you-impeach-former-president/

 

[LordVonHarley]

...because, by way of 'Compare & Contrast - 480,000 Brits got inoculated TODAY.....

I love the NHS!

But it does kind of show that if little old Britain can do 480k a day, America should be able to do more than 1 million a day.

Setting low expectations in the hope of surpassing them in order to look amazing?

 

[Dwarf]

I love the NHS!

So do they.

 

[Goldbricker]

Have you heard yourself? You need help.

Exactly, Cuomo is more a fascist like Il Duce

 

[dingerr]

because impeachment of a President has to be a sitting President not an ex President. Impeachment is not a criminal matter, merely procedural within an organisation. There's also the small matter of the House breaking its own procedures in rushing through an impeachment in 8 hours without carrying out an investigation - since 6 Jan the FBI has now stated that the attack on the capitol was organised days and weeks before Trump made his speech on the day and it was done using Twitter and Facebook - not Parler which was blamed and shutdown. Lastly, Trump only asked the rally to peacefully and patriotically support the representatives raising their election objections - by the way the Dems representative's have also done that on Republican Presidential candidates and they were not called traitors or insurrectionists. Trumps speech was more than covered by the 1st Amdt. Even left leaning constitutional lawyers, Dershowitz and Jonathon Turley and many others agree that the Presidents speech did not constitute incitement according to US law.

The constitution is ambiguous and open to a wide interpretation. It appears those decision makers, who have been elected to do so, have interpreted it as entirely appropriate and constitutional.