Where are they and why are they sometimes designed to make every range day a trial by ordeal. I'll go first. Best: Sennelager. They're flat, modern (well, up to date) have decentish shelters for when not firing or in the butts and NAFFI\Brattie wagons make regular stops. Worst: Tregantle Fort. Not counting the altitude difference between 300m and the butts, the sheer effort and drudgery of climbing up and down that hill for a week solid is soul destroying, not to mention doing my first range package there in training in '87 and my last on in '99 I still have nightamres about being made to trench hop up and down that bloody range. On my last range package there we tried to do a shoot in a gale with the wind and rain coming in off the Atlantic horizontal so fierce that it swamped our iron sights and blinded us. Whan laying on the point you have to angle your weapon down at 45 degrees to line up with the targets (not forgetting the extra sharp stones used to cover the firing points) it was especially fun with the old LMG. Can there be any worse?