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The BBC: are claims of political bias justified? Part 2.

In which people, in theory, at least, are quarantined and at less risk.

Dilemma, here.

Do you vaccinate the BAME populations because they are most at risk, when a lot of that risk is down to people's own poor behaviour?

You then effectively reward poor behaviour (stand fast for a moment on people's refusal to have the jabs).

Or do you vaccinate those who need protecting from the poor behaviour (to wails of 'racism' from those with a vested interest in retaining the political support of certain communities/those too thick or selfish to see or acknowledge the realities)?

If you're looking to not over-stress the NHS, you concentrate on those who are behaving most poorly.

Pragmatic but not really fair.
Simply take race/culture out of it - out of everything.

Draw up a set of parameters, stick to them, if someone who falls within those parameters refuses the vaccine, put them somewhere they cant affect the rest of the world. Tough if that's a very small room with food passed through an airlock.
 
In which people, in theory, at least, are quarantined and at less risk.

Dilemma, here.

Do you vaccinate the BAME populations because they are most at risk, when a lot of that risk is down to people's own poor behaviour?

You then effectively reward poor behaviour (stand fast for a moment on people's refusal to have the jabs).

Or do you vaccinate those who need protecting from the poor behaviour (to wails of 'racism' from those with a vested interest in retaining the political support of certain communities/those too thick or selfish to see or acknowledge the realities)?

If you're looking to not over-stress the NHS, you concentrate on those who are behaving most poorly.

Pragmatic but not really fair.

Just tell them the vaccine is for white people only.

See how many BAME push to the front of the queue and DEMAND to be vaccinated.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Simply take race/culture out of it - out of everything.

Draw up a set of parameters, stick to them, if someone who falls within those parameters refuses the vaccine, put them somewhere they cant affect the rest of the world. Tough if that's a very small room with food passed through an airlock.
Which is what we should be doing. In fact, I would argue that it's what we ARE doing, in the sense that all are being given the same information, being asked to do the same things, and have (or will have) the same access to the same things (such as vaccines and other treatment).

Unfortunately, two things are happening: some portions of the population aren't joining in as much as others, and that seems to be breaking down sharply on ethnic lines; and some politicians are twisting things and making out that the negative outcomes which are a product of non-conformity are the result of some form of racism rather than group or personal culpability.
 
Anyone else get sent this gift?

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anglo

LE
Which is what we should be doing. In fact, I would argue that it's what we ARE doing, in the sense that all are being given the same information, being asked to do the same things, and have (or will have) the same access to the same things (such as vaccines and other treatment).

Unfortunately, two things are happening: some portions of the population aren't joining in as much as others, and that seems to be breaking down sharply on ethnic lines; and some politicians are twisting things and making out that the negative outcomes which are a product of non-conformity are the result of some form of racism rather than group or personal culpability.
Even the virus is racist
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
The MP in orange (don’t know her name) is def off some members of the community Christmas card list.
That would be Kemi Badenoch, Conservative MP for Saffron Walden and Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Equalities.

She regularly savages those from the other side of the House and is worth a YouTube-fest in terms of what she says on identity politics, BLM and 'racist' viruses.
 

Truxx

LE
In which people, in theory, at least, are quarantined and at less risk.

Dilemma, here.

Do you vaccinate the BAME populations because they are most at risk, when a lot of that risk is down to people's own poor behaviour?

You then effectively reward poor behaviour (stand fast for a moment on people's refusal to have the jabs).

Or do you vaccinate those who need protecting from the poor behaviour (to wails of 'racism' from those with a vested interest in retaining the political support of certain communities/those too thick or selfish to see or acknowledge the realities)?

If you're looking to not over-stress the NHS, you concentrate on those who are behaving most poorly.

Pragmatic but not really fair.
Not only "at less risk" but subject of some fairly draconian infection control and barrier nursing regimes (since 3rd April. Many of course were and are crap at either, but, as you say, an 80 year old in a care home should fare better than an 80 year old still out and about and toddling off to the shops.

As for the rest, well let Darwinism take its course.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Not only "at less risk" but subject of some fairly draconian infection control and barrier nursing regimes (since 3rd April. Many of course were and are crap at either, but, as you say, an 80 year old in a care home should fare better than an 80 year old still out and about and toddling off to the shops.

As for the rest, well let Darwinism take its course.
Yebbut racism.
 
How often have we seen Susan Michie interviewed as a "member of SAGE"? Aye she is a member of the left leaning alternative SAGE and allegedly a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain.

I've seen her a few times, she's either labelled as the Independent SAGE, or as a Professor of Health Psychology at UCL, but never as the official SAGE.


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I've seen her a few times, she's either labelled as the Independent SAGE, or as a Professor of Health Psychology at UCL, but never as the official SAGE.


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Covid-19: Lockdown needs to be stricter, scientists warn

She's actually both - and has been described by the Beeb as a member of SAGE (halfway down the linked article). Somehow she manages to sit on one of the SAGE subgroups and yet also be part of the "independent SAGE" which means she gets to play both sides of the fence and dispute scientific advice given by the overall SAGE group.

And highly political. Not just a bit, but full-on Corbynista.
 

Goatman

ADC
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TamH70

MIA

Offa

War Hero
Thanks for link, Goatman. Just completed and sent off - not that much notice will be taken by BBC. While there is still a licence fee they will feel entitled and think they know not only what is good for us but also how we should think. Given up on BBC news mainly for the omissions of items which do not suit their agenda. But this could also be said of SKY and other MSM. Ironically, I find the best informative news broadcasts are elsewhere, e.g. Euronews and Al Jazeera to name just two.
 

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