The Battle of Britain

#1
I'm not a prune type and I don't know if this is the right board for this (so mods please feel free to move me on).

In these days of sportspeople and big brother contestants being regarded as heroes its worth having a look at 'Battle of Britain' which was on Film 4 tonight. I've seen it a hundred times and despite its 60s foibles it shows the pain, courage and glory (on both sides) of combat. Just as dirty, messy, painful and exhilirating as naval and land fighting.

This movie was made before PC but shows both sides in a balanced way. More than anything it made me feel proud, especially when 'Dowding' puts the MoD man back in his box near the end.

Film review over - but as a view of the 0-60 lives of 'The Few' it can't be bettered. Per Ardua ad Astra if any of you old boys read this - and I hope you do - thank you.
 
#2
Oh and another thing - it reminded me why, as a nation, we shoud regard Poles as our friends...
 
#3
67 years on, lets hope generations to come remember Winstons words.

Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few
Amazing to think only one VC came out of it.
 
#4
Read the book Fighter Boys by Patrick Bishop.
Inspiring, those young met had balls like coconuts.
 
#5
67 years on, lets hope generations to come remember Winstons words.
I doubt it, someone on tele tonight, didnt know when WW2 started,and then said it felt longer when old people started talking about it, when he was told it started in 1939,not 1933.
 
#6
Trouble is...................
Every time I watch it, I find myself waiting for the scene where Quinn and Lovejoy are leaving the house in the morning, and................
The house has a 'sixties' front door, electric doorbell and an up-and-over garage door aagghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

Anyone else spot any foopahs?
 
#7
thedobo said:
Trouble is...................
Every time I watch it, I find myself waiting for the scene where Quinn and Lovejoy are leaving the house in the morning, and................
The house has a 'sixties' front door, electric doorbell and an up-and-over garage door aagghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

Anyone else spot any foopahs?
The electric door bell was invented by Joseph Henry in 1831.

In 1921, a man by the name of C.G. Johnson developed the most common modern form of the garage door, the "up-and-over " garage door model.

As for a sixties front door.....


Battle of Britain? Heroes to a man, every single one of them. All sides.
 
#8
Yep. Vapour trail from an early package tour jet high above the action shots.
 
#9
Twump said:
Yep. Vapour trail from an early package tour jet high above the action shots.
Not that it matters, piston engined aircraft leave contrails at altitude too.
 
#10
Twump said:
Oh and another thing - it reminded me why, as a nation, we shoud regard Poles as our friends...
Good point. I also suggest watching "Bark Blue World" about the Czechs in the Battle of Britain. Less action and more thoughtful thanBofB, but still very good.
 

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#11
thedobo said:
Trouble is...................
Every time I watch it, I find myself waiting for the scene where Quinn and Lovejoy are leaving the house in the morning, and................
The house has a 'sixties' front door, electric doorbell and an up-and-over garage door aagghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

Anyone else spot any foopahs?
Yes, Robert Shaw's character in Jaws was called Quint not Quinn.



:wink:
 
#12
When I was working with a certain RAF Sqn who had taken part in the BoB, when the film was on telly and got to the bit where Air Vice Marshall Kieth Park (actor trevor Howard) AOC 11 Gp is watching one of the raids unfold in an ops room and turns to another high ranking and says - 'Who's covering Dover'? And answers '54 Sqn sir'................................it always got a resounding cheer, great stuff!!! :D
 
#13
Absolutely cracking war film, very gung- ho, cheesy in places and loads of 60s special effects. Best enjoyed with a 6 pack :D

Best bit? The Geman squadron commander asked by Goering how to defeat the British. Answer- "Give me a squadron of spitfires."

Second best bit, Susannah York in her sussies.

This was their finest hour.



Incidentally, I believe some of the aircraft refurbished for this film ended up going to the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight, so a good result all round.
 
#14
Anyway, when we've picked all the nits its all just another reminder of how our young men and women get up and do what is asked of them.

I did 20 years and it still makes me feel humble - living up to these guys -Rorke's Drift, Somme, Battle of Britain, Arnhem, Suez, Falklands, Iraq, Helmand, as a sample - is impossible.

I have a deep respect for all of them - the 'Band of Brothers' bit can be overdone but that is what we are. I'm proud to have served but looking at what others have done, well they are on another level.

And finally I watched Johnson Beharry VC on TV the other night. That guy is living up to the medal every inch.
 
#16
thedobo said:
Trouble is...................
Every time I watch it, I find myself waiting for the scene where Quinn and Lovejoy are leaving the house in the morning, and................
The house has a 'sixties' front door, electric doorbell and an up-and-over garage door aagghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

Anyone else spot any foopahs?
And a UHF TV aerial!
 
#17
BoB is a great film, even with its flaws. But what is important is not the film, but the story, the real story.

There are those that believe, and with a great deal of justification I may add, that Stalingrad was the turning point of the war. However, the Battle of Stalingrad occurred over 2 years after the Battle of Britain. Personally, I believe that while the Battle of Stalingrad may have assured the eventual destruction of the Third Reich, the Battle of Britain ensured the survival of democracy in Europe.

Just my thoughts and I may be wrong. But I am most definitely grateful to the men and women of the RAF and Commonwealth Squadrons.
 
#18
Its a top movie and the two disc version is worth getting for the documentaries alone. The shooting of the film was difficult but I think extremely well done, there are a couple of opinions expressed about Galland which seem to show his "Good German" act was just that.

Being an ex crab I bumped into a few veterans when I worked on a Phantom squadron that was a Spitfire unit in the Battle, I found these gents the most amazingly humble and phlegmatic men. One of them was just 20 when he got to his squadron, he said that one of the aircraft that he flew with another Squadron in the Battle is now with the BBMF, As someone mentioned earlier the book Fighter Boys by Patrick Bishop is a good insight into these guys.

Did spot one mistake in the film, on the closing credits one Pilot who was killed in action is listed as an Israeli when obviously Israel didnt exist in 1940.
 
#19
It is interesting to speculate whether Hitler would have been successful if he'd launched an invasion attempt immediately after Dunkirk. I get the impression the Boche were surprised by the extent of their gains in the Blitzkrieg war on France and the Low Countries. Hitler also seemed to expect Britain to "come to terms" and was not prepared for Churchill's "Very Well Then, Alone .."defiance.
With hindsight it seems it was the Kriegsmarine that scuppered the invasion plans, being unhappy about mounting a major amphibious operation opposed by the RN [still a formidable force in 1940] and with the main component of its close air support (Stukas) shot out of the sky in droves in the early days of the battle.
Let's not forget too that in 1940 the US was prepared to stand by while Britain went under. Many Republicans and quite a few Democrats (including Ambassador Joe Kennedy) believed we had it coming. Thank goodness for FDR, Ed Murrow and the Eagle squadron flyers. Oh, and the brylcream boys of course.
 
#20
I have two copies of Battle of Britain the movie by Robert J Rudhall, books packed with information about the movie, and where the planes are today, great bit about the Stuka models in the book, the shots were filmed in Malta and the models were all burnt, what a waste!!

Anyone wants a copy PM me
 

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