The Barking National Party

the_boy_syrup

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#3
Lets hope she's learnt from last time

Wiki said:
In April 2006 she commented in an interview with The Sunday Telegraph that eight out of ten white working class voters in her constituency may be tempted to vote for the British National Party (BNP) in the local elections on 4 May 2006 because "no one else is listening to them" about their concerns over unemployment, high house prices, and the housing of asylum seekers in the area.
She said the Labour Party must promote "very, very strongly the benefits of the new, rich multi-racial society which is part of this part of London for me"

Wiki said:
After the election, the BNP delivered a bouquet of roses to her office to thank her for her contribution to their cause
The election resulted in an almost clean sweep for the BNP in the seats where they stood, winning 12 of the 13 seats in Dagenham (Alibon, Whalebone and Mayesbrook Wards"
Whilst this was far short of the Labour party total, it was clear from their performance that the BNP could have won many more seats had they stood a full slate of candidates

Wiki said:
More recently, the then Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, accused Hodge of "magnifying the propaganda of the British National Party" after she said that British residents should get priority in council house allocation

Wiki said:
On 24 May 2006 the GMB Union wrote to Margaret Hodge asking her to resign "... because of Margaret Hodge giving so much publicity to the BNP which allowed them to win a large number of seats
IIRC she couldn't get two words out recently on Question Time and was roundly booed every time she opend her gob (just after the expense row)

I doubt Griffin has just thrown a dart at a board and picked this area at random

As much as it pains me I think he's in with a shout
 
#4
They pulled off a win with 10% of the vote in Yorkshire in the Euro elections, but that was under PR. Thankfully, they haven't a hope under 'first past the post', not even in Barking.
 
#5
If I were a constituent, I'd vote Labour just to keep them out of power. Normally, I'd never consider voting for such a failed disgrace of a political party as Labour but I'd rather them getting an undeserved MP in power than the BNP getting a sniff at a seat in Westminster.
 
#6
If I was in Barking I would vote for him. Quite happily.
Not because I like the man but I think PC Politics have buggered this country up so much he is a necessary evil to force mainstream oliticians to start listening to the electorate.
For decades this country has swung back and forth between Labour and Conservative simply because people will vote for the percieved lesser of two evils (whatever is appropriate at the time)
If Griffin getting a seat in Parliament can force either of the big two party's to actually sit up and listen to what the country wants then he serves a purpose.

Labour's quest for multi-culturism at any cost is destroying this country, Cameron is fudging the issues, Griffin might be an unpleasant creature but he can force the issues to the fore.
Why do you think the big party's are so afraid of the BNP? Simply because he can force them to actually do something. Both Labour and Conservative pay lip service to the electorate, if the BNP get a seat then that all changes.
 
#7
jagman said:
If I was in Barking I would vote for him. Quite happily.
Not because I like the man but I think PC Politics have buggered this country up so much he is a necessary evil to force mainstream oliticians to start listening to the electorate.
For decades this country has swung back and forth between Labour and Conservative simply because people will vote for the percieved lesser of two evils (whatever is appropriate at the time)
If Griffin getting a seat in Parliament can force either of the big two party's to actually sit up and listen to what the country wants then he serves a purpose.

Labour's quest for multi-culturism at any cost is destroying this country, Cameron is fudging the issues, Griffin might be an unpleasant creature but he can force the issues to the fore.
Why do you think the big party's are so afraid of the BNP? Simply because he can force them to actually do something. Both Labour and Conservative pay lip service to the electorate, if the BNP get a seat then that all changes.
Whilst i agree with just about everything you have just said, i am not so sure that 1 BNP seat in parliment would make that much difference. He would probably become the centre of ridicule and if the goverment wont listen to a population of 60 mil + then they will hardly listen to 1 BNP member.
 
#8
Count.Dracule said:
jagman said:
If I was in Barking I would vote for him. Quite happily.
Not because I like the man but I think PC Politics have buggered this country up so much he is a necessary evil to force mainstream oliticians to start listening to the electorate.
For decades this country has swung back and forth between Labour and Conservative simply because people will vote for the percieved lesser of two evils (whatever is appropriate at the time)
If Griffin getting a seat in Parliament can force either of the big two party's to actually sit up and listen to what the country wants then he serves a purpose.

Labour's quest for multi-culturism at any cost is destroying this country, Cameron is fudging the issues, Griffin might be an unpleasant creature but he can force the issues to the fore.
Why do you think the big party's are so afraid of the BNP? Simply because he can force them to actually do something. Both Labour and Conservative pay lip service to the electorate, if the BNP get a seat then that all changes.
Whilst i agree with just about everything you have just said, i am not so sure that 1 BNP seat in parliment would make that much difference. He would probably become the centre of ridicule and if the goverment wont listen to a population of 60 mil + then they will hardly listen to 1 BNP member.
I get your point.
However I do think that if the BNP take a seat or two it will stir Labour and the Conservatives into action.
Nothing else is going to......
 
#9
jagman said:
Count.Dracule said:
jagman said:
If I was in Barking I would vote for him. Quite happily.
Not because I like the man but I think PC Politics have buggered this country up so much he is a necessary evil to force mainstream oliticians to start listening to the electorate.
For decades this country has swung back and forth between Labour and Conservative simply because people will vote for the percieved lesser of two evils (whatever is appropriate at the time)
If Griffin getting a seat in Parliament can force either of the big two party's to actually sit up and listen to what the country wants then he serves a purpose.

Labour's quest for multi-culturism at any cost is destroying this country, Cameron is fudging the issues, Griffin might be an unpleasant creature but he can force the issues to the fore.
Why do you think the big party's are so afraid of the BNP? Simply because he can force them to actually do something. Both Labour and Conservative pay lip service to the electorate, if the BNP get a seat then that all changes.
Whilst i agree with just about everything you have just said, i am not so sure that 1 BNP seat in parliment would make that much difference. He would probably become the centre of ridicule and if the goverment wont listen to a population of 60 mil + then they will hardly listen to 1 BNP member.
I get your point.
However I do think that if the BNP take a seat or two it will stir Labour and the Conservatives into action.
Nothing else is going to......
Its a sad state of affairs when we rely on the BNP to win seats, in order to get the main parties to sit up and listen to the country, but if thats what it takes then so be it!

I am moving to Barking :D
 
#10
Count.Dracule said:
Its a sad state of affairs when we rely on the BNP to win seats, in order to get the main parties to sit up and listen to the country, but if thats what it takes then so be it!

I am moving to Barking :D
It tragic, but the truth is there are los of people out there who are starting to think the same
Its not a popular school of thought round here though :D
 
#12
brighton hippy said:
Thre BNP make kilroy silk's outfit look sane :twisted:
but I can see the appeal of a protest vote
How else can we force polticians to listen?
There aren't many options anymore. In truth Griffin's Goons won't ever be anything but a fringe party but their presence is forcing the issues onto the agenda
 
#13
brighton hippy said:
Thre BNP make kilroy silk's outfit look sane :twisted:
but I can see the appeal of a protest vote
Indeed, but letting Griffin or any of his mates into Westminster will trigger all sorts of extra cash for the BNP, do you really want that?

From where I stand any one who votes for the BNP agrees with their policies, if you wanted a protest vote there are other parties you could choose
 
#14
jagman said:
brighton hippy said:
Thre BNP make kilroy silk's outfit look sane :twisted:
but I can see the appeal of a protest vote
How else can we force polticians to listen?
There aren't many options anymore. In truth Griffin's Goons won't ever be anything but a fringe party but their presence is forcing the issues onto the agenda
Bang on. I'd be happy to vote BNP as a protest, but not if they stood a chance of getting a seat. Tactical voting doesn't make you a racist. The fact is that Labour have treated this country as some sort of hideous social experiment over the last 10 years, and the rise of the BNP is a result. It seems that the overwhelmingly upper middle class New Labourites failed to see that the working man and woman wouldn't appreciate their enlightened policies of social justice and multiculturalism.
 
#15
jagman said:
brighton hippy said:
Thre BNP make kilroy silk's outfit look sane :twisted:
but I can see the appeal of a protest vote
How else can we force polticians to listen?
There aren't many options anymore. In truth Griffin's Goons won't ever be anything but a fringe party but their presence is forcing the issues onto the agenda
My Bold.

Labour are inept, corrupt scum.

The "Call me Dave" party have gone back on their cast iron promise.

That leaves the BNP as a protest vote at the General Election.
 
#16
maxi_77 said:
From where I stand any one who votes for the BNP agrees with their policies, if you wanted a protest vote there are other parties you could choose
Not true, none of the other parties you might us as a protest vote have the impact the the BNP do.
 
#17
RangeStew said:
jagman said:
brighton hippy said:
Thre BNP make kilroy silk's outfit look sane :twisted:
but I can see the appeal of a protest vote
How else can we force polticians to listen?
There aren't many options anymore. In truth Griffin's Goons won't ever be anything but a fringe party but their presence is forcing the issues onto the agenda
My Bold.

Labour are inept, corrupt scum.

The "Call me Dave" party have gone back on their cast iron promise.

That leaves the BNP as a protest vote at the General Election.
That or UKIP, it depends on what your priorities are when making that protest vote.
If you want to protest about europe and the EU then is UKIP
If you want to protest about immigration and multi-culturism its the BNP

I do feel it is a national tragedy that millions of people feel obliged to vote for either. That Tragedy is entirely the fault of the big three party's.
 

Percy_Pigeon

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#18
I drove past the conference this weekend I don’t think a room in a converted industrial estate cafe is the Big time but I suppose Hitler had to start small too.

P_P
 
#19
maxi_77 said:
brighton hippy said:
Thre BNP make kilroy silk's outfit look sane :twisted:
but I can see the appeal of a protest vote
Indeed, but letting Griffin or any of his mates into Westminster will trigger all sorts of extra cash for the BNP, do you really want that?

From where I stand any one who votes for the BNP agrees with their policies, if you wanted a protest vote there are other parties you could choose
I understand your point. To a large extent I agree.
Who else is going to stand up and say multi-culturism is wrong though?
For the EU issues we have UKIP but who else is going to stand up and say its time to do something about the millions of immigrants we do not want?
Mainstream politics has got as far as vaguely admitting we should perhaps push the door too a little but thats it.

If any other party offered a serious solution then the BNP would die overnight. In truth my hope is that the rise of the BNP will force somebody to come u with a middle of the road, sensible policy and actually do somehing about it all.
 

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