Which does not invalidate its premise.
Belarus is not Ukraine. There is no real history of independence, apart from a brief period of 6 months in 1918. Many Belarusians would not be unhappy to be reunited with the Rodina.While we are distracted by the threat to the Baltic States, I believe that Belarus may be a more imminent target.
There is of course the ‘99 Union State of Russia and BelarusEven if the majority of Belarusians support a union with Russia, they don’t see it as a future merger of the two countries. Polls show that 55–75 percent of people steadily support the country’s current level of integration with Russia. But when asked to choose between Belarus’s unification with Russia and the country’s sovereignty, only 15–20 percent are willing to support deeper integration, and less than 5 percent would want to see Belarus as a part of Russia
“The simplest option that Russia and Belarus will accept in terms of a union state: You join Belarus,” Lukashenko said in an interview with Russia’s Ekho Moskvy radio station.
“Why are some of you inviting us to join Russia? Why aren’t you considering this [other] possibility?” he asked. “Take a listen: Russia is a part of Belarus.”
Big brother has a way of making little brother know what is good for them... it might be terminal for little brother, but, it will help to encourage the others.Moscow Times from a year ago:Opinion | If Putin wishes to remain president after 2024, annexing Belarus and then becoming leader of the Union State is rife with unpredictable risks.www.themoscowtimes.com
There is of course the ‘99 Union State of Russia and Belarus
Or maybe the other way round? That Russia becomes a part of Belarus?
Anyone who has an in-depth knowledge of the history of this part of Europe would disagree with your last paragraph.I’ve been to Belarus in the early 1990s. Stayed with a family in Minsk. It was the night that Yeltsin’s Russian tanks were shelling the “White House”. The family were very distressed, at the pictures on the TV.
Meetings with the Automotive Ministry. Ministers “hamstrung” what they can/not do.
The ordinary folk, as lovely as normal/ordinary Russians.
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It is only a few years ago . . . 5 or 6, maybe ?! . . . that Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko, wanted his country to be incorporated into the Russian Federation.
Back then, Putin said “No!” . . . Why, I do not know!
I have always considered Belarus and Russia to be inseparable, indistinguishable, one-and-the-same. Why would anyone think otherwise?!
You are @Domovoy and I claim my five roubles!! .Anyone who has an in-depth knowledge of the history of this part of Europe would disagree with your last paragraph.
The geopolitical, cultural and linguistic development of what is now Belarus (and Ukraine) is diverged from the eastern Russian principalities with the Mongol/Tatar invasions in the 13C.
Belarus was only briefly overrun and then came under Lithuanian overlordship and later became part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth until the end of the 18C. So for half a millenium it escaped the baleful influence of first the Mongols then the Muscovites (who got their break as tax collectors for the Golden Horde). The Mongols and Muscovy remade the former lands of Rus in their autocratic image. But were very late in applying their methods to the western areas of the former “Kievan Rus”. Thus their societies developed separately and more liberally.
Since the forced integration of the Belarusian lands into the Tsarist Empire, there has been an ongoing campaign of Russification. However the Belarusian language is quite different (just as Scots is different from English), though Moscow disparagingly sees it as a peasant dialect.
Independence, not since the lands of current Belarus were part of independent Ruthenian principalities before the Mongol onslaught on Rus/ Ruthenia in the 13C. But until the end of the 18C the lands of Belarus developed quite separately from the Mongol then Muscovite dominated lands to the East.Belarus is not Ukraine. There is no real history of independence, apart from a brief period of 6 months in 1918. Many Belarusians would not be unhappy to be reunited with the Rodina.
Yes.Don't they say the same about Ukranian?
There used to be many separate Russian principalities in various fluctuating states of association. With Kiev and later Novgorod emerging as the main powers and centres of influence. Moscow was an unimportant little town. The Mongols destroyed that “Kievan Rus” polity. But they also facilitated the development of Moscow, which became the Golden Horde’s proxy tax enforcer. Muscovy, having learned from its tutor, eventually shook off the overlordship of the Khans and then over the next centuries gradually assimilated the other Russian principalities or their successors into the Muscovite Borg.
They are not alone: Over 50% of young Russians want to emigrate - pollsterHowever, there is a considerable part of the population which considers itself to be Belarusian and would like to be masters of their own destiny, particularly in the younger generations.
It is reference to the pollster - The Levada center.They are not alone: Over 50% of young Russians want to emigrate - pollster
Maybe, then again, maybe not:.........Though the level of emigration in real life is not huge - a few tens thousands maximum and number of immigrants is measured in hundreds thousands.
“The U.S. Department of Homeland Security counted six times more Russians arriving in 2017 than Rosstat recorded [leaving],” Proekt said. “Six times more people left Russia for 24 OECD countries, where foreign data is available, for 2016.”
OECD, the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development, groups 34 of the world’s leading economies.
It is a hard task to separate those who really emigrated and who left country for certain period.Maybe, then again, maybe not:
377 thousands? Yes, the number is correct but not all of them are Russian citizens. The number includes Ukrainian, Uzbek, Tajik, Chinese and so on citizens who got residence permit in Russia and returned home.Rosstat estimates 377,000 Russians left the country in 2017, the latest period for which figures are available and a six-year record.
I’m not doubting that some who say they left, have in fact returned. More that emigration is in fact higher than your govt statistics. As the linked article says:It is a hard task to separate those who really emigrated and who left country for certain period.
The director general of the firm where I work was born in Crimea, was Ukrainian citizen but left Ukraine many years ago and became Israeli citizen (btw, served in IDF). Well he is apparently an emigrant. But last 10 years he lives in Moscow with his Russian wife and angel looking daughter. Did he emigrated again? In fact yes but he remains Israeli citizen. So from formal point of view he is just an expat. It is only an example that shows that emigration is not so easy matter.
But anyway all estimates of number of emigrants from Russia range from 10 thousands annually (according to strict methodology used by RosStat) to 60 thousands according alternative estimates . At the same time millions of Ukrainians left the country and many forever. On this background emigration from Russia looks as insignificant. Just compare it from immigration from Latvia (not absolute numbers, but % of emigrants).
90% of Russian citizens who go abroad for long periods are not removed from the migration register and do not fall into statistics
90% российских граждан, которые уезжают за рубеж на длительные сроки, не снимаются с миграционного учета и не попадают в статистику