The Baltics: should Britain be rushing to their defence?

Of course, whether Putin will even be here in 15 years is another question
That is all dictators inherent problem, 'when I'm dead.............' Sadly Russia does seem to produce this sort of street corner bully in copious quantities and its population is certainly stupid enough to vote for "Son of Putin" whether real or just politically annointed.
 
Latvia's Karins confirmed as PM, ending lengthy political deadlock | Reuters
Looks like Latvia's Parliament have agreed on a govt run by Karins of the centre right 'New Unity party'. They only hold eight of the hundred seats and the coalition is from five of the seven parties in Parliament:
A valuable lesson for the proponents of proportional representation and coalition governments everywhere. Some of the most undemocratic political acts of all time are the forming of coalitions after indecisive elections.
 
That is all dictators inherent problem, 'when I'm dead.............' Sadly Russia does seem to produce this sort of street corner bully in copious quantities and its population is certainly stupid enough to vote for "Son of Putin" whether real or just politically annointed.
The sad result of Muscovy historically imposing its dead hand on the rest of the Russian principalities.
 
Cough. Lithuania was never German territory unless you count temporary occupation in the two world wars. Parts of Estonia and Latvia were. The Teutonic Order failed to conquer the Lithuanians. Žalgiris/Grunwald/Tannenberg 1410.
Or, to be more sharp, those Baltic tribes who were clever enough to make allies with Slavic (Russian and Polish) States later became Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians. Those who were not so clever or lucky - were genocided or assimilated by Germans (like Prusses).
 
Here we go again .......... banging the same old clapped out drum.
Actualy, after centuries of association with (variously) Danes, Germans, Swedes and Poles The closest that the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians came to assimilation was by the Muscovite "Borg". The (original) Prussians were an anomaly and were too small fractured and pagan to withstand the Teutonic Orders "crusade" against them.
 
Here we go again .......... banging the same old clapped out drum.
Actualy, after centuries of association with (variously) Danes, Germans, Swedes and Poles The closest that the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians came to assimilation was by the Muscovite "Borg". The (original) Prussians were an anomaly and were too small fractured and pagan to withstand the Teutonic Orders "crusade" against them.
You can not use quotation marks. Significant part of this "Crusades" were real Crusades ordered and blessed by the Roman heretics.
Northern Crusades - Wikipedia

When Grand Duchy of Lithuanians, Jemaites and Russians was 'multicultural' and Russian-speaking state it was sucessfully fight against enemies and protect its culture. When they joined with Poland with their 'Democracy of Nobility' - it was start of the end. Integration with EU will finish Lithuanians as well, as conquere of Teutons had finished Prusses.
 
How the Baltic states resist Russia, the article to this looks at the Euro army and the politics in play between Germany and France.

The paper article is longer and quotes a Latvian 'spook' who says that the NATO forces stationed in the Baltics are a brilliant way of deterring Russia.

Point to note. Germany have said they will invest in Lithuanian training ranges and accommodation upto 2021 - Baltic Times
It does sound an interesting article, that I would have liked to read - BUT - I am not going to indulge their "pay wall" :( .
 
It does sound an interesting article, that I would have liked to read - BUT - I am not going to indulge their "pay wall" :( .
In the early 1990s the president of newly independent Estonia gave a speech in Hamburg. In it, he disparaged the Soviet occupation of the Baltic states. A little-known Russian official was so outraged that he stormed out. It was Vladimir Putin.
This story, recounted in Neil Taylor’s new history of Estonia, is instructive. Mr Putin has called the break-up of the Soviet Union the “greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century”. To Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians, that label applies better to the Soviet Union itself. Discussions of history often start with the phrase “Stalin murdered my grandparents.” The sense that their giant neighbour does not truly respect their independence—let alone their membership of the eu and nato since 2004—pervades Baltic politics to this day.
Given how tiny the Baltic states are, and how vast and threatening the Russian military exercises near their borders, you might expect them to be gloomy. Especially when the president of their main ally, America, seems to view alliances as encumbrances. Yet the mood is oddly upbeat.
Despite Donald Trump’s doubts, the nato mission in the Baltics is effective. A multinational nato battalion in each country is small enough not to provoke Russia but big enough to deter it. “It’s brilliant,” says a Latvian spook. Some 19 out of 29 nato members have people on the ground. If Mr Putin were to invade, he would have to kill citizens from most of them, making a nato response inevitable. That is probably too big a risk even for him.
Despite Mr Trump’s isolationist rhetoric, military co-operation with America has improved during his presidency, thanks to a bigger Pentagon budget and the ardent support of lawmakers who visit the Baltics, says a Lithuanian official. The Americans help with intelligence and live-firing ranges for tanks. All the Baltics would like to see more American troops on their soil. Noting that Poland has offered to host a big American base and call it “Fort Trump”, the Lithuanian official wryly suggests that the Balts should offer to host forward operating bases and name them after Melania, Ivanka and Donald junior.
All three Baltic states spend around 2% of gdp on defence—the natotarget that Mr Trump often berates allies for not meeting. Since Russia grabbed Crimea, Lithuania has brought back conscription (Estonia has it, too). Training includes guerrilla tactics.
Russia continually tests nato’s defences. Sometimes it does this by buzzing warplanes briefly into Estonian airspace to see how quickly the defenders respond. More often it does it digitally, with a veneer of deniability. Attacks are routed via compromised computers that can be anywhere. Lights on a big screen at the Estonian Information System Authority, a government body, show them pinging in from all around the world. Lithuania suffered 50,000 hacks in 2017. “It’s constant,” says an official.
Yet since a massive cyber-attack on Estonia in 2007, cyber-defences have stiffened. Twelve years ago hackers temporarily crippled banks, media outlets and government offices after Estonia had the temerity to move a much-hated statue of a Red Army soldier to a less prominent site in Tallinn, the capital. Since then, all three states have poured resources into thwarting digital skulduggery. Estonia hosts a nato cyber-security centre. Separately, the state recruits tech-savvy reservists to spot vulnerabilities. Baltic governments are confident that the Russians have not hacked their voting systems, but they remain vigilant. Estonia holds a parliamentary election in March; Lithuania, a presidential one in May. All three countries will take part in eu elections this spring; all are wary of Muscovite meddling.
An even bigger worry is information war. Russian trolls and fake newsmongers are determined to undermine nato, the eu and Baltic democracy. They exaggerate problems, such as discrimination against Russian-speakers. They invent outrages, such as the rape by German natosoldiers of a non-existent Lithuanian orphan. They stir up disputes, for example over immigration. Lithuania’s president, Dalia Grybauskaite, recently warned that “militant illiteracy and aggressive populism” posed a threat to her country.
One problem is that Russian minorities in the Baltics tend to watch Russian television, which bubbles with propaganda. But ethnic natives do not, and after decades of hearing lies from Moscow, “we’re vaccinated,” says Eeva Eek-Pajuste of the International Centre for Defence and Security, a think-tank in Tallinn. Most disbelieve anything that sounds Putinny. Visitors to Narva, where a river separates Estonia from Russia, can see visual evidence of the dif-ference in political culture. The eudonated a big dollop of money for a walkway on both sides. The one on the Russian side is only a fraction as long.

Copyright the Economist.
 
Russian trolls and fake news mongers are determined to undermine NATO, the EU and Baltic democracy. They exaggerate problems, such as discrimination against Russian-speakers. They invent outrages, such as the rape by German NATO soldiers of a non-existent Lithuanian orphan. They stir up disputes, for example over immigration.
Basically he's copying the German tactics over the Sudetenland, he's not even very original, but then essentially he is Adolf2.0, a nonentity in a lost war seeking revenge through 'Making Russia great again'.
 
I.The sense that their giant neighbour does not truly respect their independence—let alone their membership of the eu and nato since 2004—pervades Baltic politics to this day.
He-he-he. Do you want to say, that NATO and EU respect Baltics 'independence'?




If Mr Putin were to invade, he would have to kill citizens from most of them, making a nato response inevitable.
What is a potentional reason to invade Baltic? Right now Tribaltic is more useful for Russia as a EU member.

That is probably too big a risk even for him.
Despite Mr Trump’s isolationist rhetoric, military co-operation with America has improved during his presidency, thanks to a bigger Pentagon budget and the ardent support of lawmakers who visit the Baltics, says a Lithuanian official. The Americans help with intelligence and live-firing ranges for tanks. All the Baltics would like to see more American troops on their soil. Noting that Poland has offered to host a big American base and call it “Fort Trump”, the Lithuanian official wryly suggests that the Balts should offer to host forward operating bases and name them after Melania, Ivanka and Donald junior.
He-he-he. It is what they say now. But later, later they will tell terrible stories about their struggling under the iron heel of NATO occupation, how much they hate Septics, and how much they love their Russian brothers-liberators.
 
He-he-he. Do you want to say, that NATO and EU respect Baltics 'independence'?





What is a potentional reason to invade Baltic? Right now Tribaltic is more useful for Russia as a EU member.


He-he-he. It is what they say now. But later, later they will tell terrible stories about their struggling under the iron heel of NATO occupation, how much they hate Septics, and how much they love their Russian brothers-liberators.
I would love to meet your drug dealer.
 
I would love to meet your drug dealer.
It's called Moscow and the drug is called "moskovskaya istorichnaya pravda".
 
I was talking with some Latvians two weeks ago when they said that Usakovs - Mayor of Riga was going to get arrested and I said there would be a back-lash.
Riga.jpg


And sure enough, weeks after Bordans became Minister of Justice, Usakovs gets invited for a chat and his office and home raided.

The above is posters being posted throughout Bolderaj - suggesting the Latvians were akin to the NAZIS. This is just the beginning...
 
I was talking with some Latvians two weeks ago when they said that Usakovs - Mayor of Riga was going to get arrested and I said there would be a back-lash. View attachment 376506

And sure enough, weeks after Bordans became Minister of Justice, Usakovs gets invited for a chat and his office and home raided.

The above is posters being posted throughout Bolderaj - suggesting the Latvians were akin to the NAZIS. This is just the beginning...
Where will it end? Serious question, btw.
 
Where will it end? Serious question, btw.
Should he be charged - and he should be, Russia will stoke up trouble in the suburbs and probably we'll get more damaging information released on Latvians. Why? Because arresting him is thought of as an attack on domestic Russians who he represents and he was a Putin man here in Latvia.
 

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