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The ARRSE Middle Class

#1
Congratulations. You have all been fcuked solidly since 1997:

"The report by the IFS discloses that, despite years of Labour declarations of support for the middle classes, its policies have consistently favoured the poor at the expense of those on middle and high incomes.

The institute’s economists calculated what household incomes would be today if the 1997 tax and benefits rules were still in place.

Those left with an income of £29,791 a year after tax — 10 million households out of a total of 25 million — are all worse off than they would have been if the tax system had been left unchanged.

At the top of the income scale, the 2.5 million best-paid households, taking home an average of £56,656 a year after tax, are 8.9 per cent worse off then they would have been without Labour’s policies.

The biggest single tax on high earners is the new 50 per cent rate on incomes over £150,000 that takes effect next month. Because of that, the IFS calculated that the small group of households with net earnings of more than £100,000 are 14.9 per cent worse off.

The IFS also analysed the income effects of tax during each of Labour’s three terms.

The breakdown shows that the most redistributive taxes were imposed between 2001 and 2005, when Tony Blair was Prime Minister and Mr Brown was Chancellor. During that parliament, even households with an average take-home income of £26,132 lost out.

In the current parliament, the IFS said half of all households had lost out due to changes in the tax and benefits system. "


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...ies-have-lost-out-in-Labours-tax-changes.html
 
#2
How can you complain? The money has gone to so many good causes e.g. I see lots of chav kids get to school by taxis these days (Noduf).
 
#5
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
 

TheIronDuke

ADC
Book Reviewer
#6
Bugsy said:
How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
Dunno, but I can help.

Get to Dover in Kent. Hop a ferry. Get off and hook a left till they speak Cherman. Enjoy the rest of your life in Chermany.

Jesus. Anybody remember the good old days when the middle class were content to repair ones shoes then go home to their little terraced houses in the suburbs?
 
#7
TheIronDuke said:
Bugsy said:
How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
Dunno, but I can help.

Get to Dover in Kent. Hop a ferry. Get off and hook a left till they speak Cherman. Enjoy the rest of your life in Chermany.

Jesus. Anybody remember the good old days when the middle class were content to repair ones shoes then go home to their little terraced houses in the suburbs?
Crivvens, that's me that is!


What are the chances of a study being done to find out where all our taxes have gone. I bet the chancellor of the exchequer has just forgotten that there is a stack of cash in an old biscuit tin at the back of the cupboard.
 
#8
Bugsy said:
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
Boxheads work well but in my experience are mediocre at best, suck your own dick as much as you like but the jerries are not really that good and not nearly as good as you think. Aren't you a lover of eye ties anyway?
 
#9
Bugsy said:
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
When I worked there, half of my salary disappeared before I even got a sniff of it.... the boxheeds (and guestworkers) pay a lot of tax...
 
#10
Bugsy said:
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
We have a had a Labour government.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#11
TheIronDuke said:
Bugsy said:
How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
Dunno, but I can help.

Get to Dover in Kent. Hop a ferry. Get off and hook a left till they speak Cherman. Enjoy the rest of your life in Chermany.

Jesus. Anybody remember the good old days when the middle class were content to repair ones shoes then go home to their little terraced houses in the suburbs?
I trhink you'll find it's pay someone else to repair one's shoes!
 
#12
TheIronDuke said:
Bugsy said:
How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
Dunno, but I can help.

Get to Dover in Kent. Hop a ferry. Get off and hook a left till they speak Cherman. Enjoy the rest of your life in Chermany.

Jesus. Anybody remember the good old days when the middle class were content to repair ones shoes then go home to their little terraced houses in the suburbs?
No, no no, those weren't the middle classes! Those were artisans. The middle classes were doctors, school-masters and the less distinguished solicitors...some had been to minor public schools and the 'Varsity. Most were grammar school oiks but decent enough HO officers. Technical corps obviously.
 
#13
eodmatt said:
Bugsy said:
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
We have been had over by a Labour government.
Fixed that for you...
 
#14
Bugsy said:
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
Do you know what the comparison is? Are we comparing head teachers, doctors and site agents or other grades within the payscale? Unless we are given a firm basis for comparison it is difficult to know whether there is parity or not.
Apologies if this is covered in the article, my German is not up to a full translation.
 
#15
Cuddles said:
eodmatt said:
Bugsy said:
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
We have been had over by ALL governments.
Fixed that for you...
Fixed your fix....
 
R

renamed_user

Guest
#16
The original point of this thread was how screwed the middle classes have been by the this so-called government. I am certain many of us are happy to paid tax all these years if we could see the positive results for our money. I have run a successful business since I left HM regular forces in 1989. My little firm has paid over a million pounds in taxes etc in the past 20 years or so. Yet this country is a financial, moral and social basket case mainly as a result of all these ex student union soap dodgers who have never worked in the private sector (therefore paid for their results) but now believe they have have some fanatical right to be in power. Which simply means throwing our cash at every lunatic scheme or idea without thought for any "rainy days" hoping they won't get thrown out of power but making sure a scorced earth policy is implemented in case.
Right back to Jeremy Kyle.
 
#17
Cuddles said:
No, no no, those weren't the middle classes! Those were artisans. The middle classes were doctors, school-masters and the less distinguished solicitors...some had been to minor public schools and the 'Varsity. Most were grammar school oiks but decent enough HO officers. Technical corps obviously.
Steady Cuddles, there is nothing wrong with less distinguished solicitors who were grammar school oiks, albeit whose less distinguishedness has been enhanced with far too many years wearing green before finding the sanctuary that is the law. We are Cyclop's favourite target to pay for everyone else.

Mind you that is a Labour Party definition of everyone else, not the everyday excepted definition of the phrase. For those wondering what the definition is, you will find it in an urban slang dictionary under the word "scrot".
 
#19
Cuddles said:
eodmatt said:
Bugsy said:
There's something gone seriously wrong with earnings in the UK. Here are a few representative annual salaries from Germany, together with the supplementary payments they receive (all in Euro):

Education and teaching: 47,706 2,107
Health and social care: 39,836 2,434
Construction industry: 33,868 2,011

The average wage of all branches is 41,468, with supplementary payments of 3,775. The full list is available here:

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/0,1518,685605,00.html

How do these wages compare with those of the UK? And if the Boxheeds can afford them and still be out of recession months before the UK, what went/is going wrong?

MsG
We have been had over by a Labour government.
Fixed that for you...
Thanks, I stand corrected
 
#20
Markintime said:
The difference between a dead solicitor and a dead rabbit lying in the road?

Skid marks in front of the rabbit.
I agree MiT. If it became legal to run over solicitors you could class me as a pikey because I would spend most of my time on the road looking to terminally flatten fellow members of my profession. They are mostly a bunch of crypo-socialists with no sense of humour, which is why the Labour Party is full of them.

The legal profession and their ambulance chasing/human rights blx and bringing stupid cases are a major cause of the mess we are now in. I am a development/commercial property lawyer so I dont have to represent views I dont believe in and I work with people I want to work with.

"If its got a right build on it" is my motto! :D
 

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