The Arctic theatre

#1
Over on the Baltic thread @scalieback et al have been frustrated by the lack of an Arctic thread...

Apparently, behind the paywall of the Daily Telegraph, dear old Gavin has announced the deployment of 800 booties to Norway. There is the beginning of cooperation between Norwegian and British P8s, and news of SSNs surfacing again in the Arctic. So, time for an Arctic thread?

A new cold war: How the Army is preparing for a fight in the Arctic

@terminal @History_Man @Magic_Mushroom Please feel free to contribute.
 

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#2
Over on the Baltic thread @scalieback et al have been frustrated by the lack of an Arctic thread...

Apparently, behind the paywall of the Daily Telegraph, dear old Gavin has announced the deployment of 800 booties to Norway. There is the beginning of cooperation between Norwegian and British P8s, and news of SSNs surfacing again in the Arctic. So, time for an Arctic thread?

A new cold war: How the Army is preparing for a fight in the Arctic

@terminal @History_Man @Magic_Mushroom Please feel free to contribute.
Old news.

We’ve always done it
 
#4
The linked article makes a very important distinction i.e. the difference between Cold Weather and Arctic training. I have done the former but not the latter. I suspect that the same is true of countless other serving personnel.
 
#6
I’m betting I’m not the only one more than a tad disappointed to discover- this thread is not actually about the arctic play house in West Warwick, otherwise known as The Arctic theatre.
 
#7
The linked article makes a very important distinction i.e. the difference between Cold Weather and Arctic training. I have done the former but not the latter. I suspect that the same is true of countless other serving personnel.
Meh...there are all differing levels of cold. You just freeze your tits off, will die if exposed for a long time.
 

A2_Matelot

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#10
In many ways it's old news as has been suggested. The value of the high North has long been understood but it's not an easy environment to operate in for man or machine and to a large extent thats precluded any real expansion apart from the odd show piece. But for all that there are real strategic implications which was the reason behind 3CdeX and it's focus on Arctic capability.

However, now as the environment is changing and operations farther North are possible and I don't just mean militarily, I'm watching tourism increase and geo-exploration and soon we'll see cargo routes being explored/utilised. Which all means that in a scramble for resources there is likely to a scramble for control and with easier access comes more routes for combat operations - all to be monitored and controlled.

Given the number of Arctic treaties and the actual ownership/geography involved it's going to be interesting to watch, even SATCOM and HF access in the high north is a specialist endeavour, nothing is straightforward!

(edit:) I wonder shall we see expansion/re-opening of US facilities in Iceland and Greenland, more co-operation with the Baltic states (esp. Norway) and Canada. Of the latter their fleet expansion is notable and not coincidental.

Some articles to mooch over for those inclined:

USMC Arctic preparation

US Military (student)view on RU Arctic operations

Various Arctic strategies compared

The Independents view

Another US view, quoting Stravidis
 
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#11
RM training USMC in artic drills.



From last year.
 
#13
Will AMF(L) come back onto the Orbat?
Well, thank God I’m no longer eligible to be sent North to make a complete fool of myself on NATO planks!
Four man tent groups and ice breaking drills - shiver! :smile:
 
#20
Well aware mucker, not enough bandwidth. We're now looking at WBHF and variants of. Not long finished trials in Canadian high North and SATCOM trials further up.
Last time I did TacSat in Norway, the main problem was hitting the satellites around the equator. Not sure if we have any in a geosynchronous orbit on something like the Tropic of Cancer?
 

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