The Amish Murders

#1
No link to this, but I have just heard on 5Live on the way in that the Amish Community has visited the family of the man who murdered the 5 girls in the class shootings a couple of days back, and intend to share the money raised with them. It is selfless acts like this, in these days of "Whats in it for me?" that restores my faith in the Human Kind. I read all the time of shootings, bombs, etc etc, and it was so refreshing to hear an uplifting story and felt it deserved to be shared.
 
#3
the_guru said:
No link to this, but I have just heard on 5Live on the way in that the Amish Community has visited the family of the man who murdered the 5 girls in the class shootings a couple of days back, and intend to share the money raised with them. It is selfless acts like this, in these days of "Whats in it for me?" that restores my faith in the Human Kind. I read all the time of shootings, bombs, etc etc, and it was so refreshing to hear an uplifting story and felt it deserved to be shared.
Putting aside any reservations about their lifestyle for one moment.. that is quite a wonderful thing to read.

Repaying acts of wickedness with outstanding grace and humility is quite humbling.
 
#4
BoomShackerLacker said:
Putting aside any reservations about their lifestyle for one moment.. that is quite a wonderful thing to read.
I realise, BSL, that I am picking on one word, but why would you have any reservations about their lifestyle? Their choice of lifestyle could have absolutely no impact on you and me whatsoever; they abhore all forms of technology.

Litotes
 
#5
It just goes to show they are genuinely, lovely people.
 
#6
Litotes said:
BoomShackerLacker said:
Putting aside any reservations about their lifestyle for one moment.. that is quite a wonderful thing to read.
I realise, BSL, that I am picking on one word, but why would you have any reservations about their lifestyle? Their choice of lifestyle could have absolutely no impact on you and me whatsoever; they abhore all forms of technology.

Litotes
I admire their gesture immensely and I respect their traditional values.

My reservation, is a non-strident one, and that would be that mainly the social and spiritual conditioning of such communities tend to create a gulf between themselves and world, making it a painful journey for its adherents who wish to relate to the wider world. Bringing children into such a rarified atmosphere is ethically questionable and spiritually challenging. It's a form of heavy conditioning which is legalistic and authoritarian, taking biblical teaching with some questionable interpretations.

Although this gesture is significant and should be applauded for what it is. Wonderful.

If I've sullied this thread. Apologies now.
 
#7
Boomshackalacker my pal, I don't think you've sullied the thread. I think your reservation is totally human. It is interesting to note that the Amish community has tripled since the 1960's though - so they're doing something right?

It would be interesting to know how they police their community though. Do they have a drugs problem, alcohol related problems? Is there a sheriff or police force, or is there no crime?

Anyone got any ideas on how these gentle people run their community?
 
#8
GDav said:
Boomshackalacker my pal, I don't think you've sullied the thread.

...

Anyone got any ideas on how these gentle people run their community?
Sir, you're a gentleman and a scholar!

Some guff on the Amish
 
#10
They're a bunch of in-bred luddite freaks with a fanatical ancient belief system based on a cross between arcane superstition and chinese whispers. Christianity that is, of course. They're gentle because they marry their cousins and their gene pool has bred out any signs of independent thought.
 
#11
PoisonDwarf said:
They're a bunch of in-bred luddite freaks with a fanatical ancient belief system based on a cross between arcane superstition and chinese whispers. Christianity that is, of course. They're gentle because they marry their cousins and their gene pool has bred out any signs of independent thought.
Have you visited the planet Earth?
 
#12
PoisonDwarf said:
They're a bunch of in-bred luddite freaks with a fanatical ancient belief system based on a cross between arcane superstition and chinese whispers. Christianity that is, of course. They're gentle because they marry their cousins and their gene pool has bred out any signs of independent thought.
You are a cnut. Are you confusing them with the Welsh? How about accept the fact that they are showing incredible humility, and doing something that I don't think I would have the cojones to do. You speak of them like you have an intimate knowledge of the way they cut about. Is that all from one Harrison Ford film?. Come on oh mighty one, enlighten us. What did they do to you?
 
#13
the_guru said:
You are a cnut. Are you confusing them with the Welsh? How about accept the fact that they are showing incredible humility, and doing something that I don't think I would have the cojones to do. You speak of them like you have an intimate knowledge of the way they cut about. Is that all from one Harrison Ford film?. Come on oh mighty one, enlighten us. What did they do to you?
Come on, guru, as a squaddie I therefore reserve the right to be completely and utterly obnoxious to every minority group on the planet. It's right in the middle of QRs I think.

You a bit of an anti-Taff then?

By the way they are definitely in-bred luddites. It's practically the Wikipedia description of an Amish or a Mennonite.
 
#14
I have a downer on the Welsh and IS Supervisors....
 
#15
PoisonDwarf said:
the_guru said:
You are a cnut. Are you confusing them with the Welsh? How about accept the fact that they are showing incredible humility, and doing something that I don't think I would have the cojones to do. You speak of them like you have an intimate knowledge of the way they cut about. Is that all from one Harrison Ford film?. Come on oh mighty one, enlighten us. What did they do to you?
Come on, guru, as a squaddie I therefore reserve the right to be completely and utterly obnoxious to every minority group on the planet. It's right in the middle of QRs I think.

You a bit of an anti-Taff then?

By the way they are definitely in-bred luddites. It's practically the Wikipedia description of an Amish or a Mennonite.
I can't see how you can call them Luddites. Luddites prevent others from using the technology. The Amish don't stop anyone else doing what they do but have their own attitudes towards the outside world. It's no different to someone refusing to buy an iPod because they prefer vinyl. You, as an iPod owner, might find it weird that someone else doesn't want to have the benefits of the product but you can't make them buy it.
 
#16
What I particularly like is that on coming of age Amish Youngsters are encouraged to go out to the "modern" world and try it on for size. That most go back to the Amish community speaks volumes
 
#17
How could anyone live the amish life?, looks weird and disturbing.

No offence but those amish people are pure twisted freaks.
http://www.amish.net/lifestyle.asp

http://www.800padutch.com/amish.shtml

I even came across this.

"Why do Amish men have beards, but not mustaches?"
"There are quite a few scripture that mention beards in the Bible. An example would be Psalm 133:1,2. An Amishman does not shave his beard after he becomes married; a long beard is the mark of an adult Amishman. Mustaches, on the other hand, have a long history of being associated with the military, and therefore are forbidden among the Amish people"
 
#18
#20
PoisonDwarf, just because you are posting on Arrse, that's no excuse for talking out of yours.
While the Amish lifestyle holds no attraction for me, they are not harming me or anyone I care about, so I wish them luck with their chosen path.
I'm not particularly religious, but I do hope there is a Hell, so the cnut who killed those girls can burn for all Eternity.
 
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