Thatcher a racist?

#6
Realist not racist. Recognised that mass immigration has no discernible benefits, but does bring to the table disorder, disharmony and defragmentation.

Was in Coventry at the weekend. Nothing has changed since the first Asian immigrants appeared in the 60's - majority of them are still dressed like something out of the Pershawar marketplace, and have attitudes and loyalties to match.

No turning back the clock now though. We've made our charpoy, now we must lie on it.
 

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Good grief. If you can't understand that public attitudes to social issues change like any other fashion then you shouldn't debate them. The word 'racist' was not even used then ('racialist' was) and the UK didn't then have however many million unassimilated foreigners living in Hounslow and Leicester that it does now. If only Thatcher had capped/controlled immigration in the Australian way then; but of course the social engineers had started their ghastly work by the time she left office.
 
#10
tally_target said:
flipflop said:
vvaannmmaann said:
Recently released documents reveal her opposition to immigration.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...ained-about-Asian-immigration-to-Britain.html
Opposition to immigration does not make one a racist.
Bloody right Flip Flop. Maggie is a god!!!!
Most assuredly right good sir, by golly, I fully concur with that which you have just vouchsafed, by goodness gracious me, God Save the Quin!
 
#11
I'm not a great fan of MT but there's little in today's releases of minutes and other documents other than the sort of robust leadership and thinking that was of real value in the early years of her premiership. More of a pragmatist than a racist IMHO.

Her idiot progeny are however variously stupid, corrupt, greedy and racist. Perhaps that's causing the confusion?
 
#12
15% interest rates? Prewarning of the Falklands invasion and not enough done? People see Thatcher through rose tinted glasses. She was right abouyt immigration though, Labour are a soft touch and turned a blind eye. No wonder there's a housing crisis!
 
#14
In 1997 5% of the working population were foreign born.
In 2009 13% of the working population are foreign born.


Labour have not turned a blind eye to immigration, they have deliberatly encouraged it too deminish the British identity and dilute British culture.
That isn't conjecture, it is acknowledged fact.
Blair and Brown have set out to destroy this country, wilfully and deliberatly. They have succeeded.
The United Kingdom is now brim full of the worlds scum who have no place here.

Walking through Greenwich this morning I came accross a big issue seller, he couldn't speak English.


Personally I believe every immigrant who has arrived in the UK in the last 15 years ought to have their right os stay here removed and start again.
They can all re-apply for the right to be here and we can decide if we want them.
Does that make me racist? I couldn't fooking are less.
 

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What does the term "foreign born" represent?

I, and many thousand pad brats were foreign born so are we included in these figures?

(Not that I am in the 'working population' category now 8) )
 
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Auld-Yin said:
What does the term "foreign born" represent?

I, and many thousand pad brats were foreign born so are we included in these figures?

(Not that I am in the 'working population' category now 8) )
I believe its a polite way of saying not of British descent,
That means foreign immigrants. I don't think anybody (except perhaps Ashie and Sven) could contend that 8% of the working population are foreign born pad brats.....

The simple truth of the matter is that you only have to take a look at any city street in the UK now and see the reality
 
#17
jagman said:
Walking through Greenwich this morning I came accross a big issue seller, he couldn't speak English
Was he from Glasgow?

It might be a bit easy to look left and right at immigration but we also should be keeping an eye on our home grown paraffin lamps who have not raised a finger to give back any of the money they are happily taking from the system. Benefit dodgers, workshy oiks punters who haven't worked a day since leaving the school they probably didnt attend anyway.

Its a very broad brush some of us are sweeping eh?
 
#18
catchyerselfon said:
jagman said:
Walking through Greenwich this morning I came accross a big issue seller, he couldn't speak English
Was he from Glasgow?

It might be a bit easy to look left and right at immigration but we also should be keeping an eye on our home grown paraffin lamps who have not raised a finger to give back any of the money they are happily taking from the system. Benefit dodgers, workshy oiks punters who haven't worked a day since leaving the school they probably didnt attend anyway.

Its a very broad brush some of us are sweeping eh?
Nope he wasn't from Glasgow :D

In truth, I couldn't care less how broad my brush is.
Time we turfed out the millions of foreigners we do not need and the majority of us do not want.
 
#19
Sad truth is that most immigration figures don't include EU born as that is no longer considdered foreign by the Spin Scum at No 10.. What are the real figures - no doubt it would cause shock and outrage...
If the MOD need more cash why don't we stop flying rejected illegal immigrants back to wherever in Private chartered jets.... Cause we do!
Thatcher had her faults but she was a true Brit and did her best for us in the EU as well as at home...
The Labour Govt have behaved like 'poor little rich kids' and have given away the family fortune... The immigration drove a lot of things including the Proprerty market, cheap labour so that the rich get richer...
Roll on the election lets hope that the conservatives find some balls and realise that this is a huge issue.....
Racist, no I would never blame an individual for wanting to better their lot, but we should be protecting what we have for the future.
 
#20
rampant said:
Another view:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/30/30-year-rule-thatcher-papers-released

Yet still no accusation of overt racism, but an acknowledgement of her pragmatism in the face of the ideology of mobthink as it were.
A good article and some interesting advice from MT revealed:

Guardian said:
...Vetoing Lord Carrington's suggestion that Foreign Office negotiators should meet Robert Mugabe before the Rhodesia/Zimbabwe settlement, the prime minister scribbled in the margin of one letter: "No – Please do not meet leaders of the 'Patriotic Front'. I have never [underlined] done business with terrorists until they become prime ministers. MT"
 

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