Terrorist Nominated to Serve on Police Board

#2

Biped

LE
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#4
Praetorian said:
"We do not negotiate with terrorists"

Absolute tosh.
Bliars message to all criminals and murderers out there is that 'Crime Pays'. If you can't get your own way normally, the best thing to do is to kill people with guns and bombs. Then and only then can you sit at the big table.
 

Bouillabaisse

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#5
Trust in the police is an important part of creating peace in the province. It isn't going to happen over night but this is a start in building that trust in the Catholic communities. We may not like it but its political reality. There's also the issue that she did the time - debt paid to society etc.
 
#6
Bouillabaisse said:
Trust in the police is an important part of creating peace in the province. It isn't going to happen over night but this is a start in building that trust in the Catholic communities. We may not like it but its political reality. There's also the issue that she did the time - debt paid to society etc.

Yes this is political reality but it still leaves a bad taste.
Reading the link, this woman is not in the business of building trust in the PSNI.
SHe was released early under the Good Friday agreement so arguably hasn't done the time. As far as I am concerned I do not forgive or forget.
 
#7
GwaiLo

Apparently so.

I was under the impression that this was so but have just had Your post confirmed by someone who was invovled with the authority. I withdraw that part of the and will delete the paragraph
 
#9
green_slime
The IRA remains, I believe, a proscribed organisation under the terrorism act 2000, so membership is still a criminal offence. However I doubt that she would admit to being a member now or in the past. In any event there isn't any dispute that she was convicted of terrorist offences, the issue that people are unhappy about is that people convicted of such offences can serve on a police authority. Not that I am suggesting that you havent understood that, its just that whether she is or isn't current or past member is hardly the point.

The trouble is exactly as Bouillabaisse indicates. Many republican politicians have convictions for terrorist offences and, whilst I empathise entirely with radioactivemans sentiments expressed above, the peace process is not going to move forward if people who have renounced terrorism are excluded from political appointments. A bitter pill for many of us, but realpolitik nonetheless.
 
#10
Hmm... making Henry Morgan the governor of Jamaica was a smart move so maybe this will be equally as good. Meaning perhaps he will be quick to isolate and eradicate the remaining yahoos who have a bent towards violence.
 
#11
Renouncing terrorism does not absolve the Provo bitch of her crimes.

Nor does the peace process absolve other freed terrorist vermin from their murders and their guilt.

The breathtaking hypocrisy of new labour knows no bounds.
 

Biped

LE
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#12
I wonder if a UK police force would actually appoint a convicted child molester to the top of their ranks (even though they'd paid their debt to society). Perhaps our glorious parliamentarians would like to give myra hindley an early release, and seeing as she's done her time, perhaps she could be leader of the house.

Just because you claim to have an excuse, or mitigating circumstances for blowing up town centres, killing women, children, old men, shooting kids in the back of the knees and all those other jolly japes, does not necessarily mean that the method you used to air those grievences was the right one.

I don't like Tony Blair, I despise the labour party for 10 years of mismanagement and destruction. I feel he has sold out the union, he has sold out our sovereignty to the EU, he's brought in Stalinist laws that destroy our privacy and freedoms, he has given in to terrorists, he has given in to Iranian hostage takers, he's sent many of our troops to their deaths on a pointless war and lied to the British people in order to do it.

Now, if this isn't reason enough to start an insurgency and start blowing up town centres, I don't fecking know what is. Now perhaps if I did this, Mr Bliar might invite me to join the government. How insane, how wrong.

Please note: I do not advocate armed struggle against opression in the UK as this would be treasonous, punishable by being made childrens minister, or promotion to a police board or even worse, an invitation to parliament.
 
#13
I don't like Tony Blair, I despise the labour party for 10 years of mismanagement and destruction. I feel he has sold out the union, he has sold out our sovereignty to the EU, he's brought in Stalinist laws that destroy our privacy and freedoms, he has given in to terrorists, he has given in to Iranian hostage takers, he's sent many of our troops to their deaths on a pointless war and lied to the British people in order to do it.

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I agree with all the above, except it was Margaret Thatcher who signed the Single European Act, which gave away our sovereignty and citizenship. Whilst pretending to give them a 'handbagging'. She taught the hypocrites in power now all they ever needed to learn.
 
#14
Biped said:
I wonder if a UK police force would actually appoint a convicted child molester to the top of their ranks (even though they'd paid their debt to society). Perhaps our glorious parliamentarians would like to give myra hindley an early release, and seeing as she's done her time, perhaps she could be leader of the house.

Just because you claim to have an excuse, or mitigating circumstances for blowing up town centres, killing women, children, old men, shooting kids in the back of the knees and all those other jolly japes, does not necessarily mean that the method you used to air those grievences was the right one.

I don't like Tony Blair, I despise the labour party for 10 years of mismanagement and destruction. I feel he has sold out the union, he has sold out our sovereignty to the EU, he's brought in Stalinist laws that destroy our privacy and freedoms, he has given in to terrorists, he has given in to Iranian hostage takers, he's sent many of our troops to their deaths on a pointless war and lied to the British people in order to do it.

Now, if this isn't reason enough to start an insurgency and start blowing up town centres, I don't fecking know what is. Now perhaps if I did this, Mr Bliar might invite me to join the government. How insane, how wrong.

Please note: I do not advocate armed struggle against opression in the UK as this would be treasonous, punishable by being made childrens minister, or promotion to a police board or even worse, an invitation to parliament.
Biped, stand for parliament, I'll vote for you!
 
#15
Bouillabaisse said:
Trust in the police is an important part of creating peace in the province. It isn't going to happen over night but this is a start in building that trust in the Catholic communities. We may not like it but its political reality. There's also the issue that she did the time - debt paid to society etc.
Catholic does not equal Republican, just as the Marxist-Leninist INLA can hardly be referred to as Catholic terrorists. Sloppy language, sloppy thinking or do you think all Cat'licks are dangerous Fenians? It is just that the wife is due home at five and I need to know where I stand...

A large proportion of those playing Republican politics in Ulster today are riding a bow-wave of terrorism, however intimately they may be involved in the mechanics of it. Bona fide "heros of the struggle" like Ms Anderson are heaven sent because they have been sheep-dipped in the "justice system" and thus expunged of their guilt and associations - in some eyes.
 

Biped

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#17
JustLoitering said:
Biped said:
Perhaps our glorious parliamentarians would like to give myra hindley an early release, and seeing as she's done her time, perhaps she could be leader of the house.
She might huffle a bit, she's been dead for over 4 years.
She'd be about as much use as Bliar then.

Cuddles, I know that such experience might serve well in other roles, and despite the slightly tinged history of the Northern Ireland Police, they should now be a-political. ex-members of the IRA are not, just as ex-protestant terrorist org. members are not.

The duty of the PSNI is to maintain law and order without a political bias.
 
#18
She has been appointed by PSF to stir up exactly the sort of feelings that are beng posted here. We all knew they would appoint someone with a criminal record I am only surprised by the fact it wasn't someone with a record for killing or attempting to kill a police officer.

You have to remember that PSF are still not happy with the changes made to the police and are still trying to get more changes made, especially to those elements of the PSNI that may expose or curtail any activities that an organisation commited to exclusively democratic means shouldn't be involved in.

Gerry Adams line a couple of months ago sums it up " Sinn Fein are not joining the policing board to help the PSNI but to put manners in the PSNI".
 
#19
I watched Munich last night.

Now thats how you deal with terrorists.
 
#20
The_Cad said:
I watched Munich last night.

Now thats how you deal with terrorists.
Munich? What the Beer Hall putsch? Quite right, vulgar little Austrian and his bandit friends...vote Hindenburg in '24!
 

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