Terror Attacks in Europe

Bob Stuart MP on GB News this morning stating "..no doubt David Amess was killed by Social Media somehow..." - whilst totally avoiding the elephant in the room - Islam.

Yet again - another wasted opportunity to sort this problem out by those in high places - substituting it with another issue totally unrelated to this attack.

Social Media didn't kill David Amess MP, an Islamic Extremist did.
 
Whilst I agree with the sentiment in your post.

Sadly - This is a problem that cannot be solved.

This doesn't mean we should not attempt to solve it.

We have imported this ideology, it is now a serious threat to us, and our democracy, and we need to get a grip of it.
 
This doesn't mean we should not attempt to solve it.

Agreed

We have imported this ideology, it is now a serious threat to us, and our democracy, and we need to get a grip of it.

I'm all ears on how you get a grip on an ideology by legal means, rather than becoming a pariah State in the eyes of the World - Especially when the mantra is '' Global Britain ''
 
Accepting that islam is an ideology, rather than a religion, is a good start.

Open to debate

Napoleonism, Naziism and Communism were all ideologies that were successfully confronted and beaten.

1. The methods deployed to beat Napoleonism & Naziism is not going to be deployed on the streets of the UK

2. I think China * & Vietnam * might dispute the assertion that Communism was successfully confronted and beaten.

* China being a Communist Country that has grasped Capitalism

* Vietnam being a Communist Country under the guise of a Socialist Republic.
 
Open to debate



1. The methods deployed to beat Napoleonism & Naziism is not going to be deployed on the streets of the UK

2. I think China * & Vietnam * might dispute the assertion that Communism was successfully confronted and beaten.

* China being a Communist Country that has grasped Capitalism

* Vietnam being a Communist Country under the guise of a Socialist Republic.
In all those cases, though, the majority of the UK populace were informed, or educated, about those ideologies, decided it was not for them, and rejected them.
What other nations choose to do is a matter for them, it's what sovereignty is all about.
In addition, most Chinese and Vietnamese, and Russians and assorted other migrants to UK are here because they've also rejected the majority view of their counries of origin, accepted life here as better, and generally cause no harm to indigenous Brits.
Islam seems to be an outlier in this, as it's an unhealthy and inseperable mix of culture, religion, ideology, tribal values, most of which are incompatible with liberal democracy.
It, islam, is at its core a protection racket run by thuggish bandits, with its core tenet being domination or subjugation of everyone, either by killing them, or converting them and charging protection money.
I can't see it being popular anywhere an alternative is available.
 

Seadog

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I would like to see night curfews imposed in London for everyone who does not need to be out and about without a very valid reason .
Might get the crimewave down a bit .
From experience, if memory serves, in the 60s a small Canadian town had a curfew for under 18s. At 2100 a siren sounded on the roof of the RCMP Detachment building, God help unaccompanied youth out and about. The policy was popular with the grown ups.

I recently read that the same town council wanted to introduce a curfew on under 18s. Clearly the policy had been dropped in the last 50 odd years. Enough Councillors and citizens objected, the suspension on outrage bus nearly burst and the idea didn't get far.
 
In all those cases, though, the majority of the UK populace were informed, or educated, about those ideologies, decided it was not for them, and rejected them.
What other nations choose to do is a matter for them, it's what sovereignty is all about.
In addition, most Chinese and Vietnamese, and Russians and assorted other migrants to UK are here because they've also rejected the majority view of their counries of origin, accepted life here as better, and generally cause no harm to indigenous Brits.
Islam seems to be an outlier in this, as it's an unhealthy and inseperable mix of culture, religion, ideology, tribal values, most of which are incompatible with liberal democracy.
It, islam, is at its core a protection racket run by thuggish bandits, with its core tenet being domination or subjugation of everyone, either by killing them, or converting them and charging protection money.
I can't see it being popular anywhere an alternative is available.

I am not disagreeing ( too much ) with what you and @rgjbloke are saying.

I'm stating, that IMHO, the ability to defeat an ideology in the UK is never going to happen.

The Political will is not there for starters.

That may change sometime in future ( about a year before a Caliphate is declared ) and by then it will be far too late.
 
Bob Stuart MP on GB News this morning stating "..no doubt David Amess was killed by Social Media somehow..." - whilst totally avoiding the elephant in the room - Islam.

Yet again - another wasted opportunity to sort this problem out by those in high places - substituting it with another issue totally unrelated to this attack.

Social Media didn't kill David Amess MP, an Islamic Extremist did.
Who may well have been influenced by….?
 
Who may well have been influenced by….?

Angela Rayner - the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party

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#toryscum
 
I am not disagreeing ( too much ) with what you and @rgjbloke are saying.

I'm stating, that IMHO, the ability to defeat an ideology in the UK is never going to happen.

The Political will is not there for starters.

That may change sometime in future ( about a year before a Caliphate is declared ) and by then it will be far too late.
Perhaps if a few more politicians become victims, we'll find the political will before the Caliphate takes over?
 
Or, as the m


Or as the media are now reporting, lots of social media posts/YouTube videos by Anjem Choudhary.

Therefore NOT anonymously either.

Situation - MP is murdered in the name of Islam, after attacker views online content from a well known easily identifiable figure posting under his own name.

Response - ban anonymity on Social Media .

Yeah that will work :rolleyes:
 

Londo

LE
Perhaps we could take all those rounded up on buses to a race course for processing?

I got a black cab across London from Lambeth to Islington on Sunday morning at about 2.30. Not only was it a lovely evening, there were thousands out enjoying themselves. Another lockdown? Another curfew? Ain't going to happen.
I know it ain't going to happen yet . but I can dream can't I :-D
 

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