Terror Attacks in Europe

[lokiuk]

Could it be Bangladeshi hackers ?

But hackers having a Facebook page, now that is old school, although maybe believable for Bangladesh

 

[Snowy.]

Could it be Bangladeshi hackers ?

But hackers having a Facebook page, now that is old school, although maybe believable for Bangladesh

You are right!

Bangladeshi hackers claim responsibility for attacking French commercial websites

‘A dangerous apocalypse is ahead for France Cyberspace and we will continue the assault until you beg for forgiveness,’ Cyber 71 posted on Facebook

www.dhakatribune.com

 

[lokiuk]

You are right!

Bangladeshi hackers claim responsibility for attacking French commercial websites

‘A dangerous apocalypse is ahead for France Cyberspace and we will continue the assault until you beg for forgiveness,’ Cyber 71 posted on Facebook

www.dhakatribune.com

It's not really proof though yet

It's just a bunch of hackers claiming it was them, until it's officially denied by the French we won't know if it's true or not

 

[Le_addeur_noir]

Turkey is presenting itself as the place to immigrate for moslems residing in France...below an article from a TUR Gvt controlled media

Google Traduction

An abstract which gives an idea...

Turkey, this country which is so talked about. as the last bulwark of Islam with a president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, who is almost the only Muslim leader to speak out against the injustices suffered by Muslims around the world. Moreover, Erdoğan was once again the only one to react to French President Emmanuel Macron's plan to build an “Enlightenment Islam”.“Those who are disturbed by the rise of Islam attack our religion through the crises it provokes. Anti-Islam and anti-Muslim rhetoric is the most useful tool for Western politicians to cover up their failures, ” he said, while stressing that President Macron wanted to “ settle scores with Islam and Muslims ". Words that earned him thanks from millions of Muslims in France and elsewhere, who feel increasingly rejected, misunderstood, excluded and discriminated against because of their faith and way of life.

Is the Turkish welfare state as generous as the French one?. If not, this is a non-starter.

 

[Le_addeur_noir]

A little local difficulty for France in the Arab world right now,

France urges Arab nations to prevent boycotts over Macron's cartoons defence

President Macron's comments about "Islamist separatism" have angered some in the Muslim world.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[fantassin]

A little local difficulty for France in the Arab world right now,

France urges Arab nations to prevent boycotts over Macron's cartoons defence

President Macron's comments about "Islamist separatism" have angered some in the Muslim world.

www.bbc.co.uk

This will polarize relationships and force to take side. It already happened in the past over the banning of the veil. At the time, many Western nations criticized France for this ban. I am not sure events proved them right...

 

[stacker1]

This will polarize relationships and force to take side. It already happened in the past over the banning of the veil. At the time, many Western nations criticized France for this ban. I am not sure events proved them right...

I dont remember many western nations criticiseing, especially as most of western Europe have their own versions of bans.
I do remember left wing bellthronks complaining though.

 

[fantassin]

I dont remember many western nations criticiseing, especially as most of western Europe have their own versions of bans.
I do remember left wing bellthronks complaining though.

The usual suspects (Amnesty International, the UN Human Rights Committee) have also criticized France for the veil ban, as late as October 2018 while the law dates back to 2010.

 

[Drazyl]

State sponsored? Or could an attack of this size and sophistication be carried out by individuals or small groups?

Depending on the nature of the attack, it is possible for it to be individuals/a group with either criminal connections or money to spend.

 

[lokiuk]

Depending on the nature of the attack, it is possible for it to be individuals/a group with either criminal connections or money to spend.

Or state sponsored like Russia's "Fancy Bear"

 

[stacker1]

The usual suspects (Amnesty International, the UN Human Rights Committee) have also criticized France for the veil ban, as late as October 2018 while the law dates back to 2010.

They come under the leftwing bellthronks moniker

 

[fantassin]

This will polarize relationships and force to take side. It already happened in the past over the banning of the veil. At the time, many Western nations criticized France for this ban. I am not sure events proved them right...

One of the reasons behind the call to boycott is that France has decided to train and educate its own imams rather than have foreign imams, often non francophones and with a nefarious agenda, detached to mosques based in France.

This particularly grates wirh Turkey which is losing a major way to influence moslems living in France

 

[RCT(V)]

Hmm.. Turkey since radical Islamist Erdogan took over, is going back to the dark ages & beyond. He has started trying to re establish a new highly Islamic, Ottoman state. Even critics in his own country say so ...

Kılıçdaroğlu to Erdoğan: Your ideas are even more backward than those of the Middle Ages

CHP leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu has said that President Erdoğan's ideas are even more backward than those of the Middle Ages, adding that Turkey is more backward than a tribe at the moment. Do we have any traditions, constitution or justice left? No. I wish we were a tribe so that we could sit and...

www.duvarenglish.com

snip "Main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu has said that President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s ideas are even more backward than those of the Middle Ages."

Copied across from the "Turkey" thread . . .

Turkey and The West

I am not sure if Turkey EVER considered “The West”, NATO, the EU . . . as a “friend” !!

As far back as I can remember, I have been suspicious of, and cynical about, Turkey’s motives – under whatever, whichever, earlier regime - of APPARENTLY embracing secular (non-religious), “western” values.

Previously Erdogan may not have been so overtly nationalistic and pro-Muslim . . . which seems to have been sufficient to allow those who deliberately wished to be misled, to be so disillusioned.

However, the EU having recently been forced to both, re-appraise Turkey’s behaviour and motives; and, to re-consider Turkey’s application to join the EU; has lifted the “veil” of Turkey’s deceit.

Such belated appreciation, and (thankfully) public realisation by the EU, has persuaded, allowed, Erdogan to abandon any pretence of civility . . . and, show his “true colours”.

Erdogan’s long-held ambitions and motives are now visible for all to see as incompatible with the “western” institutions he (previously) wanted to infiltrate and subvert . . . something that he is now doing OPENLY, with such brazen enthusiasm and satisfaction.

 

[fantassin]

Erdogan's call to boycott French goods has already had an effect: the turkish lira has sunk to new depths !

Lira Weakens Past 8 per Dollar as Currency Rout Deepens

Turkey’s lira weakened through 8 per dollar for the first time amid deepening skepticism over the central bank’s efforts to shore up the currency at a time of rising geopolitical tensions.

www.bloomberg.com

 

[lokiuk]

Erdogan's call to boycott French goods has already had an effect: the turkish lira has sunk to new depths !

Lira Weakens Past 8 per Dollar as Currency Rout Deepens

Turkey’s lira weakened through 8 per dollar for the first time amid deepening skepticism over the central bank’s efforts to shore up the currency at a time of rising geopolitical tensions.

www.bloomberg.com

If Erdogan is clever he can blame it on Brexit and the MSM would lap it up

 

[Werewolf]

One can only hope it's a hoax.

Arc de Triomphe is evacuated following bomb alert

The areas around the Arc de Triomphe and Eiffel Tower in central Paris have been reopened after being evacuated over bomb fears.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Werewolf]

Bag of live ammo found near the Eiffel Tower.

Arc de Triomphe is evacuated following bomb alert

The areas around the Arc de Triomphe and Eiffel Tower in central Paris have been reopened after being evacuated over bomb fears.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[lokiuk]

Bag of live ammo found near the Eiffel Tower.

Arc de Triomphe is evacuated following bomb alert

The areas around the Arc de Triomphe and Eiffel Tower in central Paris have been reopened after being evacuated over bomb fears.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I was hoping for a Team America sequel, although it would be a bit passé to blow up the Eiffel Tower again

 

[Londo]

Bag of live ammo found near the Eiffel Tower.

Arc de Triomphe is evacuated following bomb alert

The areas around the Arc de Triomphe and Eiffel Tower in central Paris have been reopened after being evacuated over bomb fears.

www.dailymail.co.uk

A warning to the French perhaps from the religion of peace ?

 

[Snowy.]

Todays Charlie Hebdo... Erdoğan is pissed..