telescopic cased rounds work according to US Army...

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Tinman74

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#5
Where's all the heat going to go if it's not thrown out with the brass?
I more worried with the fact that a lighter round means you just carry more, so benefit of more rounds but still the weight.
 
#7
'tis... Which is interesting as I wonder how the yanks are making it work where ze Germans didn't..
 

Mav

Old-Salt
#8
'tis... Which is interesting as I wonder how the yanks are making it work where ze Germans didn't..
I thought the G11 was a technical success... Just a victim of market circumstance, as is so often the case with technically good products...
 
#9
I more worried with the fact that a lighter round means you just carry more, so benefit of more rounds but still the weight.
You're worried about carrying more ammunition for the same weight? You clearly haven't deployed recently!
 
#11
Yanks have used plastic for their blanks for quite some time, same with their simunition. I first encountered it in about 97. Of course that is for training, and although rates of fire can be intense it is over quite quickly.

I'd be interested to know what sort of trials this weapon has been exposed to. the trials that the L85 and L86 A2 varients were beasted on were very thorough and harsh, but (from what I remember of the Soldier article) the A1 variants trials were fcuking pitiful. Something like 1 mag in an hour on a stand in an indoor range...

This weapon is a support weapon, so has it been lobbed on the deck in the Arizona summer or Alaskan winter and had 5 minutes rapid and 20 minutes deliberate?

In fact, has the weapon been put in a vice and fired to catostrphic failure at either rate?
 

Cutaway

LE
Kit Reviewer
#12
Caseless rds work in a Sp wpn ?

It's hardly news.
 
#13
'tis... Which is interesting as I wonder how the yanks are making it work where ze Germans didn't..
And the Russians, Americans and British in the 70s. Strangely, they all kept the conventional cased ammunition.
Give us a ring when it works properly, OK?
 
#14
I would not trust anything the Americans built that the Germans put to the side as it was a bit iffy, esp a gun ffs. The americans have trouble enough keeping the BANG part of a round in check without handing them something that has a hell of a lot more chance of developing a mind of its own under intense use.
 
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Tinman74

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You're worried about carrying more ammunition for the same weight? You clearly haven't deployed recently!

Perhaps I wasn't being clear enough due to being a mong, this round and weapon system isn't going to make an infantryman's load any lighter.
 

Cutaway

LE
Kit Reviewer
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LE
Kit Reviewer
#18
Not a crack at you personally TM, just the way some sales geek a few years ago managed to turn 'weapon' into 'weapons system.'

All the PR jargon and trendy use of fashionable words seems to have torn the power of normal speech from otherwise sapient beings, and repetitive suggestion makes buzzwords appear accurate.

I've seen pistols referred to as 'personal hand-held weapons systems,' a bolt action rifle called a 'long-distance accurised anti-personnel weapons system' and worst of all similar bumblings about a knife, FFS !
(The precise term used for this latter has escaped me - much to the benefit of my blood pressure.

A close mate, also an armourer, used the phrase the other day - then stopped and apologised red-faced for talking bollocks.

What next, will I drive to work in my 'quadrota personnel transport system' ?


And rest !
Glad I've got rid of that rant. :-D
 
#19
CTC is good for creating compact magazines and short actions..
Plastic cases do not transfer out heat as well as metal..

Can't buck Physics - it has to go somewhere!

One of the reasons you can't produce a sustained fire shotgun...!
 

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