Telegraph Article on Iran

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Telegraph article

Most Iranians have no memory of the revolution and want nothing more than to join the rest of the world. Students in Teheran listen to Western music and watch pirated DVDs of Hollywood films. Street vendors sell revealing posters of pop stars such as Britney Spears. Boys dress in jeans, while girls do their utmost to get around the strict dress codes of the Islamic Republic.
Nothing earth shattering in the article, but still an interesting read.
 
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A very good article.

Can any ARRSEr remind me of the salient points surrounding the removal of the Shah and the return to Iran of Khomeiny ?

Who were the main players ? What part, if any, did USA play ? Were we (UK) involved ? The Russians ?

I went to Iran in 1971, it was wonderful and the people were super. Three of my cousins were born in Iran as their father worked for Anglo-Iranian and as a youngster I visited them in Abadan. Again, my memories are of pure bliss.

Any enlightenment, or have I, a poor old man, got to haul myself up to the library ?
 
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My girlfriend (a trainee journalist, standing over my shoulder) says to say, yes, we were involved, but Kermit Roosevelt (USA) was the main player.

She also says to buy/read 'All The Shah's Men' which is the best english-language introduction to the whole self-defeating saga...
 
#4
I too would like too be reminded of the ending of the shah's regime! Thanks too his overthrow i also believe we got a few extra squadrons of Chieftans?

How ever i think if memory serves me right we the west propped up his regime as a third party conflict in the war against communism somewhat like the many low level wars that took place in africa during this period!

Once again the real politik of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend', did we choose the right enemy too be our friend? How long is a length of string is the answer!

I am sure that some on here are more learned than my self and i hope that we get some interesting, facts and points dredged up!

edited too add below......................



All the Shah's Men : An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror (ISBN 0-471-67878-3 ) is a book, written by journalist Stephen Kinzer, about the 1953 CIA-engineered coup in which Mohammed Mossadegh, Iran's first democratically elected prime minister, was overthrown by American and British agents (chief among them Kermit Roosevelt) and royalists loyal to Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi.

A short summary:

Great Britain had returned the Shah in 1931. The Shah signed a deal selling Iranian oil to the Anglo Persian Oil Company, which today is called British Petroleum. When the first democratically elected parliament and prime minister in Iran took power in 1950 they planned to nationalize Iran's oil assets, violating the still running oil contract with British Petroleum. The British Government followed to court in Belgium's International Court and lost the case against Iran's new government. Great Britain reacted by blockading the Persian Gulf, the staight of Hormuz, halting Iran's trade and economy. The US concerned about Mossadegh now seeking help from local superpower, the Soviet Union, regarding the case against Great Britain agreed in restoring the pro-western Shah to power. In the summer of 1953, the CIA and Britain's MI6 arranged a coup in Tehran. The Iranian prime minister, Mohammad Mossadegh was overthrown successfully. Mossadegh spent the rest of his life on his country estate and Iran remained a strong Cold War ally of the West.


It was published by John Wiley & Sons, Inc. on July 18, 2003.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_Shah's_Men



Stephen Kinzer is an American author and newspaper reporter. He is a veteran The New York Times correspondent who has reported from more than fifty countries on four continents. During the 1980s he covered revolution and social upheaval in Central America. In 1990, he was promoted to bureau chief of the Berlin bureau and covered the growth of Eastern and Central Europe as they emerged from Soviet rule. He has also written several non-fiction books about Turkey, Central America, Iran, and most recently about the US overthrow of foreign governments from late 19th and 20th century to present. Kinzer is currently a New York Times correspondent based in Chicago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Kinzer

Even though this is from wiki it is a starting point perhaps? and as i have said before, we dont exactly have clean hands?

But although this was done decades ago it is still! The past however it does affects the present.
 
#5
From my memory the Shah was overthrown by a group of revolutionary students as his regime was deemed to be corrupt. Britain, france and USA all had solid trade agreements including the defence industry.
Khomeni was returned to Iran where he set up an Islamic theocratic government according to his personal interpretation of the Koran.
The Shah was exiled (I believe he died in Egypt), America froze all the Iranian overseas assets in an attempt to bring the revolutionary party to its senses. An Islamic theocracy rising at that time in the middle east was de-stabilising Saudi and also Jimmy Carters plans to bring Israel into positive dialogue with it's Arab neighbours.
The Iranians responded by capturing the American embassy and holding on to the hostages for about 18 months, (until Carter was ousted).
History judges the rest but for my point there is no way that a country led by Mad Mullahs should have access to nuclear weapons. Ach my dinner jacket is small potatoes in comparison to what they would do.
TB
 

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