Taking his mistress to a Mess function.

Up until 2019.

Let's face it, Mess functions aren't anything special any more.

Having the RSM getting drunk and being a **** isn't exactly a great advert for the Mess.



Is his beret supposed to look like that?
 
But if they were so popular why the need to force people?
They were popular with those i drank/socialised with. A lot who didn't want to go weren't exactly renowned for their sparkling wit and charm.
I wasn't aware that wives and girlfriends/partners had to attend, many SNCO's i know went on their own.

I was delighted to make SNCO rank and therefore embraced the Mess life. For me, it really is that simple.
 
They were popular with those i drank/socialised with. A lot who didn't want to go weren't exactly renowned for their sparkling wit and charm.
I wasn't aware that wives and girlfriends/partners had to attend, many SNCO's i know went on their own.

I was delighted to make SNCO rank and therefore embraced the Mess life. For me, it really is that simple.

That avoids my question, if the Mess is so fantastic why does its members need to be forced to attend?
Either its great and they come of their own free will or its shit and so to cover it up, people are effectively ordered to go.
 
That avoids my question, if the Mess is so fantastic why does its members need to be forced to attend?
Either its great and they come of their own free will or its shit and so to cover it up, people are effectively ordered to go.
I never said the Mess was fantastic, i enjoyed the functions etc.

Perhaps a forced culture change regarding drinking/bar hours was a factor?
Maybe younger lads coming in just didn't like the Mess traditions?

I dunno, i never felt the need to ask the RSM.

Did you?

By the way, i'm really not after an argument here so i think the thread may be getting off track somewhat.
 
I never said the Mess was fantastic, i enjoyed the functions etc.

Perhaps a forced culture change regarding drinking/bar hours was a factor?
Maybe younger lads coming in just didn't like the Mess traditions?

I dunno, i never felt the need to ask the RSM.

Did you?

By the way, i'm really not after an argument here so i think the thread may be getting off track somewhat.

The various RSMs came up with **** excuses like you have to support the Mess. In a fine show of leadership, dont make people want something, force them to do it.

I say again most mess traditions arent real traditions, they are just something a young sgt saw when he joined the mess and thought that most be the way its always done and/or it had a place 50 years ago but doesnt now.
You go to some RLC messes and the port decanter wasnt suppose to leave the table, but no one new why, in other RLC messes no one gave a ****, but it was becoming a "tradition" when I left.

Ask yourself honestly, what was there other than the Mess 30 years ago? Wives didnt have proper jobs, people who didnt drink were obviously shirt lifters, the bar was open until the RSM passed out from alcohol poisoning, few people (next to none in Germany) went home at the weekend, booze was really cheap compared to everywhere else, Food at a party was offset by the chief chips hoarding extra during the year, civvie street rarely offered the same type of function. All that has changed, its gone and its not coming back.
 
The various RSMs came up with **** excuses like you have to support the Mess. In a fine show of leadership, dont make people want something, force them to do it.

I say again most mess traditions arent real traditions, they are just something a young sgt saw when he joined the mess and thought that most be the way its always done and/or it had a place 50 years ago but doesnt now.
You go to some RLC messes and the port decanter wasnt suppose to leave the table, but no one new why, in other RLC messes no one gave a ****, but it was becoming a "tradition" when I left.

Ask yourself honestly, what was there other than the Mess 30 years ago? Wives didnt have proper jobs, people who didnt drink were obviously shirt lifters, the bar was open until the RSM passed out from alcohol poisoning, few people (next to none in Germany) went home at the weekend, booze was really cheap compared to everywhere else, Food at a party was offset by the chief chips hoarding extra during the year, civvie street rarely offered the same type of function. All that has changed, its gone and its not coming back.

You forgot to add we are doing more tasks with about a third of the people. There’s no room to loaf around anymore.
 
You forgot to add we are doing more tasks with about a third of the people. There’s no room to loaf around anymore.

Work loads calming down a bit now (although im sure someone will invent work) but Mess life will never be what it was before.
 

Allan74

Old-Salt
The various RSMs came up with **** excuses like you have to support the Mess. In a fine show of leadership, dont make people want something, force them to do it.

I say again most mess traditions arent real traditions, they are just something a young sgt saw when he joined the mess and thought that most be the way its always done and/or it had a place 50 years ago but doesnt now.
You go to some RLC messes and the port decanter wasnt suppose to leave the table, but no one new why, in other RLC messes no one gave a ****, but it was becoming a "tradition" when I left.

Ask yourself honestly, what was there other than the Mess 30 years ago? Wives didnt have proper jobs, people who didnt drink were obviously shirt lifters, the bar was open until the RSM passed out from alcohol poisoning, few people (next to none in Germany) went home at the weekend, booze was really cheap compared to everywhere else, Food at a party was offset by the chief chips hoarding extra during the year, civvie street rarely offered the same type of function. All that has changed, its gone and its not coming back.
I wonder if the changing expectations of wives who may have careers etc. are driving changes?
 
The effect of Mess life on your career is dependent on the unit you serve with. I can see why it may form a big part of an infanteer’s CR, but as an RLC Ammo Tech it mattered not one jot. I attended functions if I desired, not because others demanded.

It was quite funny at HQ 2Div when the RSM Resettlement WO tried to dick my Tp WO for PMC “Can’t fit it in” was the reply. The RSM Resettlement WO was apoplectic. I’d just like to know if he was more apoplectic when he complained to the OC and was fücked off as well.

I value the Mess for many reasons, but not as someones personal fiefdom and would always push back when someone acted like that.
Everywhere I've served the RSM is sat on the unit alignment boards WO2 downwards and is therefore able to comment solely on conduct in the Mess. They can and do have the ability to affect placing in unit which could be the the difference between top 3 to top 3rd or top third to middle third.
 
I wonder if the changing expectations of wives who may have careers etc. are driving changes?
Thats part of it. Some of the wives earn more than the CO, they don't now need to worry about the opinion of some bloke who won't let them go for a piss when they want.
 
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Thing is, the cheating squaddie is probably guaranteed getting a shag after the mess function. Not always the case when it's the missus.
I always had full access to the settee
 
Thats part of it. Some of the wives earn more than the CO, they don't now need to worry about the opinion of some bloke who won't let them go for a piss when they want.
Our new regular CO met my beloved, who is quite successful in the world of business (I'm just a trophy husband, obviously - with a little job now the kids are at school). The next weekend, the Training Major asks:
"So...does your wife earn more than the CO?"
It was fun watching his face when I replied:
"Kim, she earns more than the GOC"...
 
Our new regular CO met my beloved, who is quite successful in the world of business (I'm just a trophy husband, obviously - with a little job now the kids are at school). The next weekend, the Training Major asks:
"So...does your wife earn more than the CO?"
It was fun watching his face when I replied:
"Kim, she earns more than the GOC"...
The TA/AR is always different though isn't it. In 10 Para we had Toms in our rifle company who worked in the city who probably earned more than the GOC. Nobody talked or bothered about it though. They were equal to and no different to the Cpl who was a bus driver in Canterbury in civie street. People were only interested in Airborne soldiering.
 

Nemesis44UK

LE
Book Reviewer
Any kids involved?
If so, he's a cad.
No, not that I am aware of.

Yes, he has a son about 7 or 8 years old .



One or the other, surely?



As he isn't yet divorced and I presume his wife is unaware about his new fiancee I thought about posting lots of congratulations on your engagement notices on numerous local groups I'm with tagging him and seeing what happens when his wife finds out and he is the reason for the divorce.


Great idea - that way, no one will find out it was you, especially not the woman and your partner who will be severely pissed off with you for stirring it.


A picture taken at the mess last night of him looking very smug in his mess dress stood next to her looking stunning has been posted by them both on Facebook.

Nowhere near, she is 5'7" size 10 with quite big boobs and is very attractive.




The above comments make you seem a little.......dodgy. Is someone a little bit jelly? Is there something you'd like to share with the group?
 
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