Tactical Recognition Flashes (TRF)

#1
Here is the Army Dress Committees final list (dated May 2004)
http://www.army.mod.uk/presscentre/rank_and_regimental_insignia/Tactical_Recognition_Flashes.htm

How many are actually being worn?

From what I have been told, The existence of a TRF Design approved and ‘registered’ by/with the Army Dress Committee does not indicate that the given Regiment or Corps will in fact ever wear it!

But units assigned to 16 Air Assault Brigade will wear that TRF as its DZ Flash. Units that had more than 1 DZ Flash (other than the Parachute Regiment) will in future only wear the Regimental TRF (What about the Royal Engineer EOD Flash should no longer be worn, and the RLC Black/Red should be changed to Blue/Yellow)

If this is followed to the letter, I will be very surprised !!!
 
#2
Royal Electrcal and Mechanical Engineers
Staff and Pesonnel Support
The Lacastrian and Cumbrian Volunteers
The Prince of Wale's Own Regiment
The Pricess of Wale's Royal Regiment


I know that some of these regiments face disbanding, but at least spell their names correctly FFS :evil:

msr
 
#3
msr said:
I know that some of these regiments face disbanding, but at least spell their names correctly FFS :evil:
8) I'm sure you noticed, but Tell the MOD - It's their webpage!! :lol:
 
#5
I think the AMS (RAMC/RADC/QARANC/Field Ambulances) is the Red Cross on White when in the field,
but what about the rest of the time? perhaps a Red Cross Flash!

The RMP is also not listed but use the Black MP on Red

Also what of the Intelligence Corps? Do they want to blend in by not wearing one?
 
#6
The Red Cross is not a TRF, but a protected symbol within the meaning of the Geneva Conventions, used to identify medical personnel irrespective of what side they are on. It should always be worn on the left arm.
 
#7
thanks for that page. I just love how easy it is to find anything on the army website if you dont know the exact page. :roll:

I'm looking forard to telling our colonel that the really naff one he gave us is illegal (the story doing the rounds is that his wife designed it).

Or maybe not. I dont think Mrs Emperor would appreciate it if I tell her she has to take all the old ones off and sew on some new boy scout badges! :D
 
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#9
msr said:
The Prince of Wale's Own Regiment

I know that some of these regiments face disbanding, but at least spell their names correctly FFS :evil:

msr
You'll notice this one was next to the Kingo's flash: scouse feckers have nicked the s :D
 
#10
[/quote]The Red Cross is not a TRF, but a protected symbol within the meaning of the Geneva Conventions, used to identify medical personnel irrespective of what side they are on. It should always be worn on the left arm

VB, not quite correct. Thje Red Cross armband isn't a mediacl symbol either, but signifies a non-combatant. That's why non medical RAMC personnel wear them, as do padres.
 
#11
Also spotted this one, on the "official list"


"The Pricess of Wale's Royal Regiment."

Perhaps produced by a journalist, or someone dylsexic :?:
 
#12
msr said:
Royal Electrcal and Mechanical Engineers
Staff and Pesonnel Support
The Lacastrian and Cumbrian Volunteers
The Prince of Wale's Own Regiment
The Pricess of Wale's Royal Regiment


I know that some of these regiments face disbanding, but at least spell their names correctly FFS :evil:

msr
msr spotted a few typos earler!
 
#14
ViroBono said:
The Red Cross is not a TRF, but a protected symbol within the meaning of the Geneva Conventions, used to identify medical personnel irrespective of what side they are on. It should always be worn on the left arm.
Just to add to the debate, and to confirm comments. Here is an extract from the Nov 2004 Poster. (The current issue)

These are not listed on the MOD page:

 
#15
Interesting. The instructions appear to contradict themselves - the Red Cross is always worn on the left, and there are two sizes - larger for clinical staff and smaller for support staff. Each badge has to be stamped to validate it. It is also worn by many civilians engaged in humanitarian work. Its use is also governed by the Geneva Conventions.
 
#16
ViroBono said:
Interesting. The instructions appear to contradict themselves - the Red Cross is always worn on the left, and there are two sizes - larger for clinical staff and smaller for support staff. Each badge has to be stamped to validate it. It is also worn by many civilians engaged in humanitarian work. Its use is also governed by the Geneva Conventions.
That is how I have seen it in the past, as a white armband (Differant sizes has always puzzeled me!) Stamped with the AMS Circle. The Movements also being an armband.

Now I do not know if this means that the Red Cross will in future be worn as a TRF with the Armband worn only on operations. or that they are just depicting the symbol. Would like to know...
 
#17
If medics were to wear the Red Cross TRF, but were serving with another unit, would they wear both TRFs?

RN medics wear a Red Cross badge on their right sleeve, but not on combat kit, when they wear just the armband.
 
#18
WTF is it with all these TRFs?

Back in the 80's to see anything on anybody other than qualification badges was to invite the wrath of the Stickmen. You only used to see jump wings and Cdo qual badges on combat jackets, shirts, etc.

But since GW1 badges and TRFs seem to be proliferating like Hamsters in heat! I've seen some guys going about with that many patches on their arms that they must be in hock to their eyeballs with their local tailors!

Whats going on with this? Do we want our potential enemies to know what units they are facing? Whats the thinking behind it?
 
#19
prs069 said:
Whats going on with this? Do we want our potential enemies to know what units they are facing? Whats the thinking behind it?
If they're close enough to tell what's on your arm, then you've probably been captured, and it makes one less thing for them to beat out of you
 
#20
ViroBono said:
If medics were to wear the Red Cross TRF, but were serving with another unit, would they wear both TRFs?

RN medics wear a Red Cross badge on their right sleeve, but not on combat kit, when they wear just the armband.
In theory:

Way I see it is you wear only your own TRF wherever you go!

So in a Medical Regiment with AGC, APTC, RLC Chefs & Drivers & REME Mechs, they all wear their own TRF's. and Medics wear none (or a Red Cross TRF IF it exists?) On operations ALL wear the Red Cross Armband.

Where a Medic is attached to say an infantry regiment, he should not wear that TRF

Wearing of Brigade & Divisional Flash's is a different matter.

In Practise:

Why is it the Chain of Command are not explaining this?
Or is it they are not sure as well??
 

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