TAC Gym Installations

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Hedphelym

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#1
On a recent CCRF weekend, we were briefed on few things (mainly Herric 11) but what was also mentioned by the CO was the aim to install gyms in every TAC, and pay you to come in and use it - any day of the week.
It was said this was being phased in as of now.

Apologies if this has been brought up before, but as I've just slipped a disc in my back and been RTU'd from the current CIC with the potential of being out of training for up to 8 weeks (including physiotherapy) then it's something that would be really helpful when I start getting my fitness back up - Especially considering I can't afford a membership at any of the gyms in my area.

So basically just wondering if anyone knows any more about this, or if your TAC is one of those which has one now.

Cheers
 
#2
Hedphelym said:
On a recent CCRF weekend, we were briefed on few things (mainly Herric 11) but what was also mentioned by the CO was the aim to install gyms in every TAC, and pay you to come in and use it - any day of the week.
It was said this was being phased in as of now.

Cheers
Don't hold your breath. I was told this in 1982, then was told that fitness was an individuals responsibility.

Can you see individuals being paid to use their gym ? Anyone on holidays from work could kick the arrse out of it and get paid.
 
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Hedphelym

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#3
haha, okay mate.
It just came to mind as I started getting a bit worried about getting my fitness up in time for the next CIC thats all.
The CO seemed pretty confident and definate about it at the time, but I'll take your experience over that.
 
#4
Although nice idea, its very impractical. Not every TAC has the space or can have one installed due to building limitations. I imagine that it'll be a feature of any new TACs built but I wouldn't count on it. You say you can't afford gym membership, have you tried your local council? They often run gyms that are far cheaper than the going commercial rate. Or if you live near a barracks you could try blagging the use of their gym. Don't know if they'd be happy to let a stab use a regular's gym, but it is supposed to be one army after all!
 
#5
1/4 days pay - 5 days a week.

If they ever did that I'd blow the dust off my green-kit!

Naturally they won't though. As everyone would be thinking like me.

My fcuking gym costs me £30 a month and its always heaving!
 
#6
My PSI has pulled his finger out and collect eqpt from all over to build an extremely impressive gym.

The guys turn up about 6 on a drill night to use it.

msr
 
#7
similar in my place but it was the SQMS who got it together. although if the boys come in at 6 and use it then i pay them a 1/2 day.
 
#9
Pretty sure the Army policy doc on TA PT says bods should be paid for PT in there own time, at the TAC or not. Don't ask me for a copy just tell your PSAO I said it was alright.



(The bit about the policy is true though)
 
#10
Some TACs that are close to regular barracks are able to use the gym there. Not heard about our lot being paid to use it though!
 
#11
stroker said:
Pretty sure the Army policy doc on TA PT says bods should be paid for PT in there own time, at the TAC or not. Don't ask me for a copy just tell your PSAO I said it was alright.



(The bit about the policy is true though)
I think this used to be the case but am fairly sure it isn't true anymore. Ask your PSAO.
 
#12
If you live / work near a Regular establishment with a gym, phone up the head Gym Queen, explain who you are and ask if you can use their facilities. You'll need an induction but after that you'll be able to use the gyms whenevr you want.
 
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stroker said:
Pretty sure the Army policy doc on TA PT says bods should be paid for PT in there own time, at the TAC or not. Don't ask me for a copy just tell your PSAO I said it was alright.



(The bit about the policy is true though)
"Honest sir, I did fifty hours of PT over the weekend! Can I have my wages now please sir?" :lol:
 
#14
I think it's down to your CO. I know some of my mates in other places get paid if they can prove they've done gym time (I think it varies - from memory, some get 1/4 for every X hours, some get a days pay for X hours etc). However, we don't. I use the (recently refurbished :D) gym in my TAC anyway, I turn up a few hours early on a drill night, and if I got paid to do it, or at least my travel covered, I'd go a lot more often too.
 
#15
We have a small but well equipped gym , We gat a quarter days pay for using it for two hours before drill night . The astonishing thing is that , as it's not thoroughly supervised it has become something of a social institution , rather than a beasting place , so its easy money . But it's still not well attended .
Incidentally , we also get two days pay for passing PFT , ( up to twice a year ) , to " reflect the time and effort put in to keeping fit enough to pass the test " .

Ludicrous and lucrative .
 
#16
I think the Adjt would close our gym if he had to pay people to go! It's quite well stocked and attended and with the people at this unit you don't need to motivate them to get fit with money, but it seems like a good idea for your average TA Unit.

The Adjt even fitted it with tv screens and dvd players so he can watch Clint Eastwood films before work when he works out!

The only downside is that none of the women ever go in there, strange that.
 
#17
ancient said:
The astonishing thing is that , as it's not thoroughly supervised it has become something of a social institution , rather than a beasting place , so its easy money . But it's still not well attended .
...which neatly brings me on to my point, which is if the ironically lazy jack-barsteward PTIs don't bother their arses to show up, new soldiers never get inducted and therefore can't use all of this shiny gym equipment.

Making the whole enterprise a fecking waste of time.
 
#18
I wonder if anyone has thought of paying for lean mass - get a set of those bio-impedance scales and you can measure outputs rather than inputs. Pay to achieve rather than to participate. Much better idea. Paying someone to spend time is a bad idea when the desirable changes take place through doing something really feckin horrible in a short period of time, and then watching what you eat. You wouldn't pay a joiner by the hour if he was fitting your kitchen. :)
 

The_Duke

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#19
The measurable outputs are already there - the ability to pass a PFT/CFT as required for MATTs and bounty.

Pass the tests and earn your money (bounty, not additional days pay) regardless of BMI, fat measurement, lean mass or any other such pseudo scientific sportsology rubbish.
 
#20
Aren't some of the things you're supposed to get physically better at not especially related to developing lean mass?

Wouldn't you end up encouraging soldiers to follow body building routines rather than stuff more specific to what they actually do, like carrying heavy loads long distances in taxing weather, or climbing over obstacles/into buildings?
 

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