TA while at Uni

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  1. Hi there, I'm a student at uni in Shropshire and want to join the TA. I know we have a UOTC we're attached to but to be honest I would rather go for the real deal (No disrespect intended), and am looking into the Royal Mercian and Lancastrian Yeomanry. I was wondering how compatible joining the TA is with being at uni? Is there anyone here that is doing this or has done this in the past?

    If this topic has been covered elsewhere please just redirect me. I have done a search but couldn't find what I was looking for.
     
  2. Yes this post has been done in varias forms. From my experience the TA has been brilliant and very understanding that my uni work comes 1st, in fact I was specifically told to finish my degree rather then take a year out and go on a certain operational tour and then apply for one despite their being a shortage of volunteers at that stage.

    What year are you in? Obviously in 1st year you can afford to take more time out for TA training but it can get in the way later especially in 3rd year with dissertation in particuler. That is unless you are happy with taking longer to train? Once you have completed both phase 1 and 2 there is a lot less pressure on you to put the TA 1st because if you miss one weekend then you are nessicerily going to be at a disadvantage training wise and be forced to wait till the next weekend.

    Overall though Iv found that the money is a great benifit of the TA, it doesn't feel like a job in the conventional sense and you can earn pretty much the same amount doing a few weekends and drill nights as you would earn working part time shelf stacking or the like.

    edited for mong speeling
     
  3. Try again...
     
  4. Yea I know...! Just too lazy to change it now :p
     
  5. I'm in the TA at uni now, is all good, I'm a first year though.

    I've heard that if you're a TA officer and get called up, being a student won't prevent the mobilisation. I'm thinking that is bull, anyone shed any light on this?
     
  6. you will never have more spare time than at uni. Crack on.
     
  7. I have to put my hand up and admit to being a feeeelthy student. Joined TA in my second year, now in my final year and have balanced it well with TA, managed to get through trade training and was working on my dissertation while on radio stag (on exercise, in back of a rover) last weekend. It's due in on Tuesday so not training this weekend but that's a rare exception.

    The £840 bounty for my second year is paying for some new toys, part of a holiday later in the year and a bit of a lash up when my dissertation is finally complete, so probably Monday night. Most students I know will pretty strapped for cash until loan comes in after Easter. The money is good.

    Mobilisation - well to avoid it you need to have a good reason, I believe 'it will hold me back a year at University (which I've already paid x amount for this year) and probably worsen my chance of a degree' is generally accepted as one of the best. Regardless of whether Officer or not. I know of people at uni's who have asked for it several times and been rejected. Currently I believe that all mobilisations are voluntary anyway.
     
  8. From what I have been told, (so am probably not quite correct) any TA personelle can put in a claim that by being mobilised will have a disproportinate effect on their life and can request that they have their mobilisation cancelled or deferred. However this is not a entitlement and if your case is deemed unworthy then it can be dismissed and (after any appeals) your off to wherever it is.
    As students we can claim that if our degree is interupted then it will have long term effects on our lives (or words to that effect). On top of this I was told that subject to your personal situation you are then classed as being a certain risk for mobilisation. Thus, subject to operational requirements it is hoped that all required personelle can be obtained through voluntary trawls, then compulsory with low risk personelle looked at 1st and so on down the line untill they have what they need.
    We had students recieve call ups for telic however all succesfully appealed.

    So technically you can still be mobilised as a student but you have good grounds for appeal and are near the bottom of the pile when they look for people.
     
  9. Cheers for all that chaps (and ladies? I don't know). Had a very encouraging email from the RMLY, so reckon there's no reason not to plough on. Out of interest, of those of you at uni did you join as officers or soldiers?
     
  10. Go in as a soldier, get basic done and see what you enjoy. If the training team think you have Officer potential (normally, 'oh so you're doing a degree? Well step this way young man'.) then they will speak to you about it during initial training. If you fail as a DEPO (direct entry pot officer) and mess up or quit the officer training I believe that the system does not have to keep you on strength - although they may pull some strings to get you permenantly attached to your admin squadron.

    I know quite a few who started officer training but actually realised doing a trade is actually more enjoyable/rewarding for them. Additionally managers and such like in civi street don't always enjoy doing the same job in spare time, albeit in green.
     
  11. Soldier, though I joint 2 years before going to Uni. Might look into a commision after but who knows! :)
     
  12. Just been browsing through past threads on this and other boards, and was wondering why the RLC get such a hard time? My most local TA unit is the catchily named 123 Ammo Sqn 157 Log Sp Regt, is there anyone here who would extoll the virtues of joining the RLC, or even tell me what I would do in such a regt, compared to the RMLY, as a soldier or an officer?
     
  13. Simply, RMLY fights, RLC supports the RMLY to do the fighting.

    Someone out there can give a longer winded answer to your question probably.
     

  14. From what I gather of UOTC, its great for getting an extremely wide range of experience in different areas
    of the Army. Expect to get to play with things from tanks to infantry to helis, opportunities for all kinds
    of diverse training. If you join a TA unit instead, well, great, but the training will be a lot more focused,
    even narrow, once you get in there. On that basis, I would try UOTC first and get that breadth of experience.
    Bear in mind also, that UOTC may be kinder to your yearly studies because they will arrange their events
    and training around the academic year, rather than the TA unit where they will just plan events year round.
    Obviously you can just take a back seat when you want to but still, thats worth adding into your pros n cons.

    Thats my tuppence..
     
  15. i joined the TA when i went to uni - i went on the UOTC selection W/E and hated it, absolutely hated it, it was the stereotype of the braying tw@s, posh whores, bulky lesbians and bigtime walts.

    i left on the saturday night, got a mate to pick me up.

    i then went down to my local TA unit, did the selection process and loved every minute of it, everyone was very supportive of my studies and my PSAO/PSI's were brilliant at getting me on courses and jollies during the summer vacation. certainly at the time i was there (1996 - 2000) being in full-time education exempted me from mobilisation under pretty much all circumstances.

    i got to work and socialise with a greater (better?) mix of people, cracked on with a trade and was working towards something tangible, rather than rather nebulous ideas of 'leadership' and a 'wide view of Army life'.

    it also sort of fitted in with my degree subject, which gave me some fantastic perspectives that i just couldn't get at uni.

    try UOTC by all means, but i'd certainly recommend taking a butchers at a local TA unit - especially if they are 'corps' units. not slagging off infantry by any means, but as part of a 'comprehensive education' to make up for a comprehensive education Corps units are very good. IMHO.