TA Strength

Discussion in 'Strategic Defence & Spending Review (SDSR)' started by Bell7819, Jul 16, 2011.

Welcome to the Army Rumour Service, ARRSE

The UK's largest and busiest UNofficial military website.

The heart of the site is the forum area, including:

  1. There is a tendency within the MoD to suggest that cutting the reserve forces would produce significant savings. This is a fallacy. The cost of a TA soldier is about 1/5 of the cost of a regular. Therefore to save the cost of a regular Company the MoD would have to disband a TA Regiment. TA soldiers do not require housing, large welfare costs or even No 2 uniforms. It should be remembered that during the last two world wars most of the fighting (and dying) was done by non regular troops, sailors or airmen. The same can be said of the Korean, Malayan, Suez and Borneo campaigns.Even the Battle of Britain was won by University and reserve squadrons. During the Viet Nam war virtually all US air transport was carried out by the US Air National Guard. In the US many airfields have National Guard aircraft lined up along runways piloted by commercial airline pilots. Students can train to fly the latest fighters etc by signing on for 1 or 2 years and then going on the reserve. The same can be applied to the Navy using those ships currently mothballed. Much of the army's heavy equipment, such as tanks, heavy artillery etc could be stored and maintained in parks then used by TA soldiers when required. Instead of each regiment having its own complement of guns, tanks etc, they would only require a few for training but would draw their wartime issue from the storage parks. Finally I'd just like to add I am not advocating the disbandment of any regular forces but merely suggesting that if savings have to be made the reserve forces are not the place to start.
    • Like Like x 2
  2. Cheers for that bell(end), until you came along this site was severely lacking in fat speccy hobbyists who were prepared to wage war on the internet and highlight the Gareth's awesome abilities. I foresee this topic stimulating a refreshing debate on the subject, with many interesting points being raised by members of our reserve forces.
  3. Already underway in the Current Affairs forum. Well, more of a discussion about the forthcoming cuts to the regs in truth. And the OP should go away and read up until they actually know what the **** they are talking about.
  4. This must be a wah!
  5. Where is the dislike button...
  6. Bell,
    You seem to be just regurgitating a whole load of arguments that are only half truths. The TA only cost 20% when they're not being used. When they are being used they cost slightly more (especially officers). Yes, during total wars, non-regulars do most of the fighting and dieing...mainly because in peacetime professional armies are cut back to the bones and cannot be killed twice (ie the BEF). There's also the point that (to paraphrase Patton) you don't win by getting killed. The US National Guard had a 35% higher death rate in Iraq than the Regulars and are currently being taken off the front line in Afghanistan for exactly the same reason.
  7. **** knows mush. Why don't you use the skills you picked up in the TA Monkeys to "detect" it?

  8. Edited for clarity.
  9. The fact is it is MORE expensive IMO. firstly when a TA soldier deploys the goverment must match the soldiers civillian wages, they must also compensate the individulas employer as that company has lost an employee for however many months. Also whilst the soldier is on operations they are quite rightly entitled to all the benefits that a normal regular soldier recieves while on operations!
    Factor in MTD's bonuses, annual camps, weekend traing the costs soon mount up! Now take in the equation of the goverments plan to reduce regular personnel and increase reserve personell then the cost will surely rise! also these individuals will require more extensive training, or we run the risk of falling from a tier 1 outfit to tier 3 in a short space of time, that is the whole point of having a professional army. The old adage comes to the fore again, save a penny cost a pound!