TA Sandhurst

#4
Either from your unit PTI, or ask on the PTI board.

It would be good to post the sheet onto the downloads

Cheers,
msr
 
#6
;D This is one of those rumours that aways goes round but I've never been able to get a definitive answer. Does anyone actually have any evidence for this...??

BTW, my best ever BFT time was at Sandbags so I'd be very happy to hear that I have the right to knock a few more seconds off in retrospect!
 ;)
 
#7
I ran exactly the same time on my measured 1.5 mile run at home as I did there. I think that this is an urban legend.

msr
 
#9
My former Milan 2i/c and QM were a DS at RMAS - they took some delight in informing me that the course was about 200m longer than the standard BPFA course.  Though they could be wrong (one was a PTI though) - they stated that the BPFA should finish at the turn before you run along the front of new college heading to the gym.

I know i ran it slightly faster than i would have due to being there and giving that little bit extra so as to shut the PTi's up. (plus i didn't want to be out run by any of the girls......)
 
#10
In saying that, if you fail your BPFAs you can still pass the course, as did a number of people on my course.

When I was st Sandbags they called it a TFA - Total Fitness Assessment, which included pullups.

The BPFA isnt any worse or longer than anywhere else, but the warm-up beasting beforehand has to be experienced to be believed.

And when in the gym...."DONT WALK ON THE GOLDEN FLOOR!!..RUN SIR!!!"
 
#12
The BPFA isnt any worse or longer than anywhere else, but the warm-up beasting beforehand has to be experienced to be believed.

And when in the gym...."DONT WALK ON THE GOLDEN FLOOR!!..RUN SIR!!!"
I don't recall it being that bad....
 
#13
When I was there the warm up beasting was bad and unfortunately for us poor unsuspecting innocents rather a shock to the system.  Everyone made it round within time, but well off expected performances, then got a fine ragging from the DS about it.  When we did it again the next week everyone flew round, but we didn't have the beasting before....

S
 
#14
One tip:

Don't push yourself too hard to get a cracking good time, as this will only mean that when you get split into groups for the endurance run you'll get yourself into the group that gets beasted harder!  I've never understood how that logic works... the slower ones get it easier???

Plus, if you're female, it would appear to be perfectly acceptable to do the run in a cr*p time while being personally escorted by the DS and while crying "if this is what it takes to get a commission then I don't want it".  You'll still then succesfully commission no problem.

I'm not bitter.
 
#16
Lost Comms

Although women have an extra 90 seconds to complete the BPFA run before slipping into the 'amber' zone, last time I ran it I came in ahead of half the males on my course - most of whom were walking.

It's comments like yours that made me train as hard as I did to pass the test, not that I condone such idiotic generalisation.

By the way - the male body has (on average) 10% more muscle per kilo of bodyweight than the female body, hence the extra time. Technically, it's as difficult for us to run the course in 12 minutes as it is for you to run it in 10.5

(As a side note, for the orignator of this thread: you are required to run 1.5 miles in under 10.5 minutes, do 50 sit-ups in 2 minutes and 40 press-ups in 2 minutes (with a minimum 5 minute break between the 2)

(Females must complete the run in 12 minutes, do 50 sit-ups in 2 minutes, and 21 press-ups [full extension, no knees-on-the-floor business] in 2 minutes)
 
#17
Chickiedee,

Apologies if my post was misunderstood - I was not making an "idiotic generalisation", rather I was stating the matter of fact of a specific example that occurred while I was at Sandhurst.

However, I'm not surprised that you managed to out-run many of the men on your last BPFA - general fitness standards (in the TA at any rate) are nothing short of appalling - and I don't just mean this from a military perspective.  Some of these people must struggle to climb the stairs, and are only going to go on to burden the NHS at some point soon!

LC
 
#19
Oops - sorry msr

Those over 30 should find something much less energetic to do with their time. Golf for example.  ;D
(Am I in danger of making an idiotic generalisation?)

Not too sure about the requirements for the, ahem, 'more mature' members of the TA. I'll look it up.

LC - I stand corrected. My apologies.

<edited for spelling>
 

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