TA Recruitment in Staffordshire

Discussion in 'Army Reserve' started by EX_STAB, May 21, 2007.

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  1. Positive coverage, in what respect? The only positive, is that I am positive that they will do whatever it takes to turn the TA, overnight, into the army version of the police's special constable. It's war-fighting on the cheap!

    There's a gap in the regular forces that has got to be filled and they will fill it at whatever cost. It's a pity that they couldn't bring it in to solve the pre-Iraq war problem that units had trying to retain soldiers.

    It has long been identified that the reason many TA soldiers leave is because it takes too long to get from recruit to trained soldier, but nobody gave a sh1t. Now they have realised that being the policeman of the world they need more bodies and, not having enough resources in the regular force, they have to make A to B as quick a process as possible.

    If the 'powers that be' had taken their heads out of their a8seholes and listened, we wouldn't have depleted units and they wouldn't be playing catch up.
  2. I referred to "positive coverage" in the sense that the news article was upbeat about people joining the TA compared with the more typical coverage of military issues that one gets from the BBC.

    The question of how the TA is being used to cover the reduction in the regular army is another matter in which I'm largely in agreement with you.

    Not sure about the Special Constable parallel though.
  3. ES. I am, we are like the specials, only paid!

    Take care fella, soldier on safely!!!!!!!
  4. so how long does it take to get from recruit to trained soldier?
  5. from the BBC article

    But can a soldier be considered fully trained in just 4 weeks when basic training for the regulars is 12 weeks? Surely it's like trying to fit a pint into a half pint glass.
  6. so why dont thay offer training in longer blocks? it would not take long to make up the 12 weeks. there are people out there who want to join the ta and can do exactly that.
  7. I would guess it comes down to money. There's probably some idea also that not many people would be able to fit "fulltime" training into their lives due to other commitments so what point would there be in trying to administer for the few that could/would.

    I recently read that Collins chaps biog and he comments on the time it takes to get someone from first walking through the door at the AFCO to walking through the gates of an ATR and that thr process is just too long. Peoples lives move too quickly these days but the Armed Forces don't seem to have the will or budget to grasp the nettle and speed these processes up.

    In defense of the TA, I'd like to think that part of the reason it takes so long is because they want to ensure the recruit has taken it all in. I have my doubts though.
  8. how many people can remember what they have been taught upto 12 months ago in a two hour lesson? prob nobody. in fact it seems a great waste of money especially if the recruit leaves due to boredom. I spend more than 5 hours a week practising wake boarding, any less i would loose interest and pack it it. which i guess is what happens with the TA. It used to be called part time, now spare time when in effect most jobs give a lunch hour longer than what is required to be part of the TA. I really dont get it.
  9. I guess the original thinking was that repetition would instill enough of the very basic skills and then the following years service would round out the training. Of course, now the MOD are using the TA to shore up the Regular Army and the old ideas about training have been exposed as inadequate for the task.

    If every recruit had the option of the intensive 4 week training program they still couldn't be considered to be fully "trained"? That is, they surely wouldn't/couldn't seriouly deploy a recruit after just 4 weeks training plus whatever training "trained" TA soldiers receive prior to deployment?

    If the MOD were serious they'd offer "regular" training for those volunteering to fill the roles that are most in shortfall*; infantry etc. Offer shorter service contracts but with added commitment after deployment as a Reserve.

    So, for example, you could volunteer to serve as an infantry soldier on a 1 year tour of Iraq and then commit to 3 more years as a Reservist with the posibility you could be redeployed or volunteer within your contract. It would commit you for the same time as a Regular soldier but, outside of being on tour or exercise to prepare for your tour, your life would be your own.

    I can imagine that most people would probably argue that you'd be better off signing on as a Regular than doing the above.

    This has turned into a bit of a ramble. When bored at work don't start to try and put the MOD's world to rights.


    *probably not the word I mean
  10. Just seem annoying, that if your to old to join the regs but have the time that there are no other options out there. I can see why people don't bother with the TA as much these days, everything else in modern day life has moved forward to be more productive and concentrated in training and development where as the TA seems to be about 10 years behind modern day practises. How does the training differ if your in a specialst unit of the TA?
  11. msr

    msr LE

    You get even less.

  12. how can you possibly get less??? if your only getting 2 hours per week anyway.
  13. specialist units don't do drill nights and do fewer weekends (soldiers come from all over the UK). They mostly do core soldier training as they already know how to do their specialist skill
  14. I know what you mean. I recently put in an application for the Regular Army but was rejected as too old (am 33 and the age limit is 33rd birthday). Received a polite letter from the MOD saying Thanks for your application but, sorry, you're too old.. No mention of possible service options within the TA which seems like a missed trick. I requested the general bumph from the new recruitment website but have as yet heard nothing back. Can't say I'm suprised.

    As an aside, I see that London Scottish, along with a few of other TA regs., are running an insight weekend 6th-8th July. Normally my long (and only) weekend off but, of course, due to other peoples leave I am working the Friday night. Will see if I can get a swap for earlier in the week and try and get a place.

    Link to info London Scottish Insight Weekend