TA Officer from OR?

#21
Ha! Just registered in order to be able to and throw in my own tuppence ha'penny to your quandry young bird.

There are definite plusses and minuses to either situation.

Now you say the option is to join the OTC and go through their training as an officer or remain a Lance Jack in a Rifle Coy and work your way up whilst reading for your doctorate.

In addition to Atilla's advice, i'd ask myself is "what do i want out of the TA?" and "why do i do TA?"

If the answers involve serving your country, becoming a lean mean fighting machine or establishing your mark somewhere up the military hierarchy then you should have joined the Regs.

If you're in to have a bit of a laugh, experience new stuff, serve your country part-time and get pocket-money, well done, you joined the right organisation.

The OTC is a completely different beast to the TA Inf. On the plus side, there are huge perks -the Army will view you as a potential Officer recruit, you thus get really good teaching, getto take part in the the OTC sailing regatta, long battlefield tours, run your own Adventurous Training packages, go to various balls and dinners and generally spend much less of your time being shouted at by people less intelligent and talented than yourself.

Naff skills in the field? Doesn't matter, somebody else has left their cocking handle behind and someone else yet has brought only their cocking handle.

On the minus side they get less kit like CWS, NVG and specialist kit to play with and make do with less stores. They do tend to be absolutely shocking in the field ('link arms and run across the road as a oner chaps-they'll never spot us!'). On the other hand, it's also much more difficult to shine in this crowd because they are often very, very bright and a good number will combine that with extraordinary talent.

i think some OTCs also have fewer training weekends per year but longer en-bloc training (Easter AND a Summer Camp).

Preparation for RMAS is much better in the OTC unless the new RTC thing is going to pull extraordinary rabbit-shaped monkey out of the hat

Don't worry about the age thing, there's always somebody around your own age and if there isn't -just talk shop.

To sum up;
OTC=More fun
TA Inf=More skills

If i had to do it again, i'd have joined the OTC for the first few years, no question.
 
#22
Noodles said:
Ha! Just registered in order to be able to and throw in my own tuppence ha'penny to your quandry young bird.

There are definite plusses and minuses to either situation.

Now you say the option is to join the OTC and go through their training as an officer or remain a Lance Jack in a Rifle Coy and work your way up whilst reading for your doctorate.

In addition to Atilla's advice, i'd ask myself is "what do i want out of the TA?" and "why do i do TA?"

If the answers involve serving your country, becoming a lean mean fighting machine or establishing your mark somewhere up the military hierarchy then you should have joined the Regs.

If you're in to have a bit of a laugh, experience new stuff, serve your country part-time and get pocket-money, well done, you joined the right organisation.

The OTC is a completely different beast to the TA Inf. On the plus side, there are huge perks -the Army will view you as a potential Officer recruit, you thus get really good teaching, getto take part in the the OTC sailing regatta, long battlefield tours, run your own Adventurous Training packages, go to various balls and dinners and generally spend much less of your time being shouted at by people less intelligent and talented than yourself.

Naff skills in the field? Doesn't matter, somebody else has left their cocking handle behind and someone else yet has brought only their cocking handle.

On the minus side they get less kit like CWS, NVG and specialist kit to play with and make do with less stores. They do tend to be absolutely shocking in the field ('link arms and run across the road as a oner chaps-they'll never spot us!'). On the other hand, it's also much more difficult to shine in this crowd because they are often very, very bright and a good number will combine that with extraordinary talent.

i think some OTCs also have fewer training weekends per year but longer en-bloc training (Easter AND a Summer Camp).

Preparation for RMAS is much better in the OTC unless the new RTC thing is going to pull extraordinary rabbit-shaped monkey out of the hat

Don't worry about the age thing, there's always somebody around your own age and if there isn't -just talk shop.

To sum up;
OTC=More fun
TA Inf=More skills

If i had to do it again, i'd have joined the OTC for the first few years, no question.
Noodles, Bird is already in and seems to want a career. You have given a shopping list of reasons for an 18yr old to join OTC, but not a 27 year old graduate seeking further progression in their career. Also it is not hard to shine at OTC, it is however hard to shine at RMAS without decent training, which the OTCs have failed to do (bitter experience) whereas the RTCs are increasingly doing so (good experience). I loved my time in the OTC and think it is a cracking organisation, but it doesn't do what it says on the tin. Anyhow, Bird meant RTC, so what are we arguing about....
 
#23
I agree with Noodles that it is very much about what you want to get out of the TA, but i think that the TA has moved on a bit from the social club that you seem to suggest as being the aim.

RTC Officer Training Wings have been around for a few years now although i agree that some are istill n the process of being set up and developed.

In many ways Noodles' argument for the OTCs (if i knew how to do the quote thing i would quote your paras 7 and 9 here) is actually an argument for making sure all our POs are trained through the RTCs. Although in fact the argument does a disservice to OTCs and many of the Officers who have come out of that system.
 
#24
barbarasson said:
Noodles, Bird is already in and seems to want a career. <snip>
Anyhow, Bird meant RTC, so what are we arguing about....
Oh my bad, yeah, completely forgot about the new syllabus. i was just having a flashback to being a TA O/Cdt -The TEWT: 'Situation Enemy: Okay, let's just imagine we've got a full Motor Rifle Regiment heading at us. No, make it a Company. Not a Motor Rifle Company...no, errrr....Tanks, yeah a Tank Company...err...with a Motor Rifle in support. And paratroops. How many tanks does a Tank Company have again..?'

In defence of my own statement about shining; you can tell even in the TAC which pax will be keen in the field, who the leaders are and who has that 'edge' to them. i think it's more difficult in the OTC because there are so many talented thrusters.

So, having re-read the post as RTC, not OTC, i have to say DON'T DO IT!!! You'll spend the rest of your career wittering on about who wore what uniform on which RMAS TACC passing out parade...
 
#25
Don't bother with the OTC. Transferring from the TA you will probably be disappointed and unimpressed - I was.

The only real plus points were the drinking and shagging and whilst I don't know you, you are not an 18 year old boy and I'm therefore assuming these things are not of paramount importance to you, or at least doing either of them with 18 year old boys is no longer as interesting to you as it might once have been.

Edited to add - they didn't have RTC in my day( :? ), so the above is not relevant to your case. I'll leave the above point though.
 
#26
clownbasher said:
Don't bother with the OTC. Transferring from the TA you will probably be disappointed and unimpressed - I was.
CB,

You a spot on there.

msr
 

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