TA lose out on latest Honours and Awards

#1
With the percentage of reservists on active duty I am surprised that no-one from the TA received anything this time round. Is it because the TA commanders feel reluctant to put forward any of their bods in case they are ridiculed? Is it because the TA only do less dangerous tasks and therefore have little chance of carrying out a brave act worthy of an award? Is it because the TA doesn’t work hard enough in HQ's and don't get recognition for honours? Is it simply because they are TA?
 
#2
AIUI one TA unit currently in a sandy, hilly place has very recently had a VERY robust 12 hour "exchange of views" with Terry Taliban...
 
#5
apart from probably being a polynesian word what does it stand for?

As for the unit - who is it? I know that its not the Rifles as they are getting their cold weather gear sorted at the mo
 
#6
its text/mong slang for "as I understand it" and is used by ********* who are too feckin' lazy to write proper! :roll:

Back to the topic - personally I think that a TA soldier is a second class citizen when it comes to handing out any kind of recognition - lets face it, thousands of TA had to quite literally beg for their Telic medals while MoD civil servants who visited on fact finding tours had theirs on their desks when they returned to work!
 
#7
I wonder if the lack of awards is a simple case of who owns the TA bod in question?

For example a mobilised TA soldier is attached to a regular unit and once discharged from mobilised service is back with the TA. We know that OP Inserts have a habit of not "appearing" for a while and I wonder wether the status of a mobilsed soldier may make it difficult for the paper machine to process the award - or if indeed their is a chain of escalation for such things? It could simply and sadly be a bureaucratic issue?
 
#8
FARMBOY said:
I wonder if the lack of awards is a simple case of who owns the TA bod in question?

For example a mobilised TA soldier is attached to a regular unit and once discharged from mobilised service is back with the TA. We know that OP Inserts have a habit of not "appearing" for a while and I wonder wether the status of a mobilsed soldier may make it difficult for the paper machine to process the award - or if indeed their is a chain of escalation for such things? It could simply and sadly be a bureaucratic issue?
No - citations are done in theatre to a timetable, so this is not a factor.

What has been a factor in my experience (although may not be more widespread) is that a TA soldier in a composite TA sub-unit is likely to fare worse than a TA soldier in a regular unit because:

1. The citation will be signed by a TA Maj. Compared to a host of citations signed by reg Lt Cols, this is immediately a downer.

2. The staff work and DW by TA OCs can be poor (and, to be fair, they don't get the staff support avail to a reg CO). Shoddy citations are easy to bin during the filter process.

So, for 2 borderline citations, the TA one may fail first.

That said, if the soldier is fully deserving, then people will pull out all the stops to help, with re-writing etc.
 
#9
I read recently of a TA soldier who was snubbed for an award despite risking his life, while a Reg who helped at a distance got one. I got the impression that it was because he was TA
 
#10
Oh stop moaning - is it what anyone joined up for??? Medals????

God give me strength - could it be, that just for once they did their jobs and not more???
 
#11
Dimples said:
I read recently of a TA soldier who was snubbed for an award despite risking his life, while a Reg who helped at a distance got one. I got the impression that it was because he was TA
Where did you read that?\

T C
 

chrisg46

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#12
I think it depends. A TA NCO in my coy on Telic 6 got a deserved MiD for one of his actions, so it does happen.
However other things can affect it. I got a civil award for one incident, as did the team commander. The tour OC was our own OC from back home, and he put us forward for a Lord Lieutenant award, and passed the recommendations for the other two members of the team involved to their respective company commanders, who then apparently did nothing with them. So, out of a team of four, who all did exactly the same, two got rewarded, two didnt. The two that didnt missed out because their OC's did not pass on the recommendation.
 

chrisg46

LE
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#14
themaadone said:
Oh stop moaning - is it what anyone joined up for??? Medals????

God give me strength - could it be, that just for once they did their jobs and not more???
Man does have a point there. Dont forget that to earn medals, you have to do something extraordinary, we're not american after all...
 
#15
Rainbow-Warrior said:
With the percentage of reservists on active duty I am surprised that no-one from the TA received anything this time round. Is it because the TA commanders feel reluctant to put forward any of their bods in case they are ridiculed? Is it because the TA only do less dangerous tasks and therefore have little chance of carrying out a brave act worthy of an award? Is it because the TA doesn’t work hard enough in HQ's and don't get recognition for honours? Is it simply because they are TA?
You sound like fcukin' journo!?! Noshers the lot of them!
 
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fozzy

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#16
Dimples said:
I read recently of a TA soldier who was snubbed for an award despite risking his life, while a Reg who helped at a distance got one. I got the impression that it was because he was TA
Balls. As others have said, its down to Staff Work. Lets not cheapen the achievements of truely outstanding acts of courage by starting a stupid slanging match.
 
#17
Lance-Corporal Darren George Dickson MC, Royal Logistic Corps (Volunteers).

'nuff said.

msr
 
#18
Rifle-Green-Sex-Machine said:
its text/mong slang for "as I understand it" and is used by ********* who are too feckin' lazy to write proper! :roll:
If you are going to gob off and show how little you know of modern English idiom and internet usage:

1. Start each sentence with a capital; and
2. Its "properly".

Good lad.
 
#19
BB - I think that you will find that the comment "proper" was a joke referring to the original slagging off regarding the text speak.

as for starting with a capital, how about Athens? :p
 
#20
Lads, I did not intend to belittle the achievements of TA lads on who won awards and decorations in previous lists, this post refers to the currant list dated 19/07/2007.

I do believe that L/Cpl Dickson MC was a previous winner, and Major Farrington does not have Territorial Army after his name as normally announced.

If this is the case, and the army has finally decided to stop distinguishing between Reg & TA, then are their any more TA on that list?
 

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