TA Int corps

#1
I was just wondering what the edinburgh lot did, and what the joining criteria was. If OPSEC allows feel free to let me know, either by PM or normal (ie replying to post) methods.
Would be much obliged for any responses.
Even the potentially humiliating ones :D
 
#2
You hadn't thought of perhaps contacting the Unit, expressing an interest and then perhaps arranging to attend a 'drill night' (sorry ARAB)?......Um are you sure this is the right unit for you?
 
#3
Erm, well, being that the front door method you suggest is the most obvious one, I was rather thinking of getting some info from other sources first.
Silly me for thinking that gaining answers to questions was one of the purposes of a forum. :wink:
 
#4
If your wish comes true, then you will become a master of the black art of JWP2-00.

Something in there talks about: " systemetic exploitation of all available sources and agencies."

I think you will find the fourth or 5th thread below this quite helpful in that area:
http://www.arrse.co.uk/html/modules...c&t=2838&sid=a73a28f6b557bfa8c0b2e5f0802b82d3

Of course if you wanted to get involved in real intelligence work, you would need to join an RAF Reserve intelligence flight.

Most of their training is based from RAF Chicksands, in Wiltshire* :wink:

* according to the Guardian
 
#5
Just ignore the troll re the RAF there .... unless you believe that a few weekends on how to package incoming int for redistribution to the growbag wearing master race are equivalent to Op MI.
 
#6
RAF Int!! Their theory is, unless it comes from nice photographs taken by their own, it ain't true. The MI concept is just a dark and distant subject that they will not even entertain.
 
#7
eye_spy said:
RAF Int!! Their theory is, unless it comes from nice photographs taken by their own, it ain't true.
if you had a true grasp of an all embracing concept you would know that not all air-breathing sensor platforms aquire imagery.

There are also RAF trade groups Int An (V) and Int An (C)

There are RAF officers who have served in J2X appointments and numerous RAF NCOs who have completed successful HUMINT tours, including the JFIT equivalent, on Op Corporate.

A damn fine CPO ran another JFIT on Granby as I recall, teaching junior service reserve soldiers how to fill jerricans correctly and dig shell scrapes.

I think you need to smell the purple coffee eye_spy


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#8
RAF input to spec duties was about 0.001%, that is 1 in 1000. As we don't have 1000 spec duties personnel - work it out!!
 
#9
Joking aside, RAF reservists get very good at their particular speciality - I've worked with them and been impressed. However, their units and training are intended to fit them for one task and one task only.

In comparison the Corps teaches you to be Op MI first - and then (if you fancy it) to master a speciality. And to be as good as the RAF specialist. We do aim to be better, because we're like that, although the longer period of time they spend on one subject can hone their skills to an impressive level.

The RAF do not teach the broad skill set needed for Op MI - because, let's face it, they do not need to run the G2 cell for a deployed Army unit or provide security support to same. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise needs to rein back the propaganda and examine the facts. This is not a criticism, horses for courses and all that.

And if we're going to get bitchy about 3 MI's finest on holiday I have some interesting tales about RAuxAF Sqn's having fun on field weekends. Lack of practice leads to skill fade, and you practice field skills far less than we do. Again, is anyone surprised ?
 
#11
Shamus said:
RAF input to spec duties was about 0.001%, that is 1 in 1000. As we don't have 1000 spec duties personnel - work it out!!
James, perhaps you have spent too long in the late nite, fuggy haze of the tithe barn. Some would say the SD commuity is a lot larger that the one you are thinking of.

I can think of a number of decorated members of the RAF who have succesfully downshifted for a quiet life in the slime, yes even aircrew. The wider SF community has it's share of RAF, even going back beyond Op STORM. I recall there was once an ex radar tech teaching CQB in the barn, a gentleman who had done a number of fascinating courses .


PS: Of course don't forget "Yourman" http://www.arrse.co.uk/html/modules...=yourman&sid=6b22b4e32b2fd476893394d49f24d041
 
#12
Vonshot said:
RAF specialist reserve Int? Is there a website? never heard of that. Got out a while ago HUMMM
Look for the RAuxAF website and they should all be on there. As I'm in the TA I'll make you find it yourself. I think they used to be RAFVR but once that disappeared they all got a name change.
 
#14
adastra said:
I can think of a number of decorated members of the RAF who have succesfully downshifted for a quiet life in the slime, yes even aircrew. [/quote] adastra, stop making th... real Int job - but a quiet life ? Dream on.
 
#15
One_of_the_strange said:
adastra, stop making the world think that all the RAF are tits like you. Trade is almost universally green to blue in my experience -.
"your experience" may just equal the span of your objectivity,

( just under a phoenix rotor blade's depth by my reconning.)

I Have PM'd you with the details of 9 individuals who have moved fromRAF to either slime or SD/SF.
 
#16
adastra said:
One_of_the_strange said:
adastra, stop making the world think that all the RAF are tits like you. Trade is almost universally green to blue in my experience -.
"your experience" may just equal the span of your objectivity,

( just under a phoenix rotor blade's depth by my reconning.)

I Have PM'd you with the details of 9 individuals who have moved fromRAF to either slime or SD/SF.
RTFA. Thought we were discussing reservists here, my comments stand. And I even mentioned regs going the other way for completeness - as they do. But not for a quiet life.

Did not discuss SD/SF because however much the more Waltish members of 3 MI may dream we're a long way from being that - oh, and the obvious reason (obvious to anyone not a tit anyway). You sending me a list shows you're not a tit, you're a complete security vacuum window licking mong. I could be anyone - bloody lucky for you I'm not some trolling terrorist.

I'm not going to reply to your PM and if you continue leaking sensitive information like a pressure washer you may be responsible for ARRSE's first change of circumstances form.

Finally, Phoenix has a propellor. Rotors are on helicopters. Tit.
 
#17
snigger.....tit indeed.

adastra wrote...

teaching junior service reserve soldiers...
er...what? even the rafreg could not be described as Soldiers. and please dont come back with the hoary old chestnut that the rafreg are to the raf as the Royal Marines are to the Royal Navy. If the job specs were the same does anyone with a brain really think they would be serving to 55?

GROUP4 DO THE SAME JOB. Why DO the rafreg get GPS on individual issue? Dont they know what airfield they are on ?

Use and non-use of capitals respectively ARE deliberate.
 
#18
adastra said:
Of course if you wanted to get involved in real intelligence work, you would need to join an RAF Reserve intelligence flight.

Most of their training is based from RAF Chicksands, in Wiltshire* :wink:

* according to the Guardian[/color]
That'll be the lot who on average are older than god and are incapable of dressing themselves? Can't say that the exercise they were on really convinced me that they were involved in "real intelligence work" either. No more so than the guys from 3MI though in a slightly different role I'll grant you.
Oh and as for Int An (V) or whatever they are calling themselves this week - this is about reservists. You can't join the army reservist equivalent without being ex-trade. I would think that the RAF are the same in which case thier mentioning is totally irrelevant.
 
#19
notmesir said:
[SNIP]
Can't say that the exercise they were on really convinced me that they were involved in "real intelligence work" either. No more so than the guys from 3MI though in a slightly different role I'll grant you.
Dare I ask which bit of 3 MI they were from - or as much as you feel comfortable with in this forum ? Much as I'd like to claim we're all fantastic we have very real problems with lack of availability of training in some areas, yet in others we do things the regulars don't. You can't get young Cpls up to speed on working in a Bde HQ if they've never been on an exercise as the slots aren't available, for instance.
 
#20
To be honest i'm not 100 percent sure which part of 3MI the guys I met were from. Some good lads, keen but not particularly experienced. I was referring more towards the time I met guys from the RAuxAF Int lot. They were doing a not particularly realistic exercise, must have had an average age of about 2000 years old and looked a complete state to be honest. I'm sure that there are some fantastic, experienced guys etc within them but to come on here spouting how good they are and trying to convince people that they are some sort of SASPARACOMMANDOSTEELYEYEDKILLERSOFDEATH unit who do all the real int is a bit daft to say the least.
 

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