TA Inf and LMG and GPMG

#1
What's the craic with deployed TA and the Minimi and the GPMG? I know they get a MG platoon but is the training open to others? And with Minimi being a UOR is there any chance of them getting the SAA training for it back at their Coy or will they have to deploy first and do it at RTMC?

Cheers

Zulu
 

RP578

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#4
Z_M,

The LMG is pretty much exclusive to operational units at the moment. You'll be familiarised with it on your pre-deployment training. To be honest it's not vastly different from the General.
 
#5
to follow up on what RP said, the minimi is very similar to the gpmg. THe best you will get is to train with the gpmg in light role in the uk with your unit. You should get access to the lmg on any pre deployment trg.
If you are not in the MG pl you rarely, if ever, get to train with the gpmg. IMO that is wrong but thats the way it is.
 
#6
Like RP said, if your using the weapon you should get the WHT on it.

However saying that the first time our guys saw it in 2003 it was just handed to them and they were told to crack on :D.

They are around, try an get your SPSI to borrow some from a local unit.

Its basically a baby GPMG, treat it that way and you won't go too wrong.

Also read up on the manual it covers all the small differences
 
#7
waitout said:
Its basically a baby GPMG, treat it that way and you won't go too wrong.

Also read up on the manual it covers all the small differences
Please don't - get a trained SAA Instructor to teach you correctly.

msr
 
#8
Yes sorry thats what I should have said :)
 
#9
msr said:
waitout said:
Its basically a baby GPMG, treat it that way and you won't go too wrong.

Also read up on the manual it covers all the small differences
Please don't - get a trained SAA Instructor to teach you correctly.

msr
Whats that Emperor Mong? You reckon it will be ok to just have a quick flick through the manual before I teach the blokes? Well I suppose whats the worst that can happen, cheers mate.

Scots
 

RP578

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Book Reviewer
#12
waitout said:
So who trains the SAA instructor ??? :)
Is that a wah? SAA instructors gain their qualification from the Small Arms Skill Corp's SAA wing at the Infantry Battle School (aka Brecon School for Boys).

There are different SAA courses:

a) The Section Commanders' Battle Course SAA, which is an integral part of the overall SCBC (aka "Junior Brecon" or "Juniors"). SCBC is a promotion course for Infantrymen LCPls to get their second stripe and it ain't nothing nice.

b) AASAA, a six week course that the other arms and services go on to become SAA instructors.

and lastly

c) AASAA (Short), an abbreviated two week course tailored specifically for TA and MPGS. It concentrates on the SA(K)90 qualification (coaching marksmanship) and instructing the rifle and LSW. However it is stipulated that a qualified SAA instructor can instruct on Small Arms that he is familiarised and WHT'ed on.

Hope this helps.
 

RP578

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#13
Sorry mate, my brain's just kicked into gear and I finally realise what you were asking!

In answer to that then; any other SAA instructor who is fammed on it.
 
#15
Our unit has GPMGs and LMGs floating around for everyone to get some
predeployment training .Not sure who has overall ownership of the LMGs
but the proper machine guns :D are the sf platoons but are lowned out to company locations .Could have fired them yesterday if they had turned up or well more fun for us .
 
#16
Our HQ Coy has a couple of LMG's and a UGL for pre Chilwell training in house.
Our Coy has the SF Platoon so we can always get a jimpy if required.
 
#17
Can your PSI's not try their own units, thats how we normally do it, or as a last resort loan pools hold most stuff, sf gpmg, gpmg,s eyc but they need at least 6 weeks lead time to borrow.
 
S

swampmonster

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#18
We got ours from 1 Scots...stoys goes they will be issued to all TA infantry...not holding my breath for that one!
 
#19
So what's the chance of one of the lads from a normal Rifle Pl that's not co-located with the MG Pl to have a go? Would it not make sense to have as many people trained up as possible? Don't get me wrong, but is SAA on the GPMG difficult? Never done any so don't know.
 
#20
No your SAA intructor will be able to take you through the drills no probs.

Its all down to the Coy 2IC and the SPSI, if they put the WHT and lessons for the GPMG in the training programme then you can do it, all the SPSI has to do is borrow the Guns from the SF platoon.

As an Infantry man you should be competent with all the weapon systems you use, its all down to your coy/plt training to ensure you complete the required tests.
 

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