TA CIED courses

#1
Ive just completed a 6 month tour of afganistan i was a member of a barma team and was out with my vallon every day and during the later part of my tour did a horn course and used horn. Before going to chilwell i had no knowledge of Vallon barma or even ecm now im going back to my TA unit and id like to build on the knowledge and experience ive gained. Could anybody tell me wether their are any appropriate courses i could do or would i have to transfer to a speacialist TA unit?
 
#2
The is such a course to qualify people to teach it for MATTS.

The merlin centre at Strensall run a course, is that any good to you ?
 
#3
In my experience CIED courses are populated by future bahma walts whose one and only terrifying encounter with an IED will be on power point in the training wing.


Get on the course or be prepared to get told exactly what it's like in theatre by someone who's never been.



*hyperventilates wildly*
 
#4
That is one of the reasons for doing a course having done this for 6 months i havent got the patience to be lectured by someone whos never done the job. I also want to teach this so people know what they are getting into when they put themselves forward for mobilisation.
Thanks polar.
 
#5
CIED Asst Instructors course is what you need, we run them quite often at Chilwell but I think most regional places run them.
 
#6
If there is one good thing to come out of recent ops it will be experience young instructors, perfect opportunity to clear out the drains as it were.
 
#7
I'e just done the Assistant C-IED Instructor course ( awaits usual bleating).

There is a good deal more than Vallon and BARMA / KALA taught. Get on the course ( assuming you're DIT qual'd) and the combination of the course tick and your recent experience will make you very useful as an SME to your unit.
 
#9
Hence my last; 6 minutes.

Any idea of the make up of my course?

Thought not.
 
#15
i havent got the patience to be lectured by someone whos never done the job. .
But you still want to be taught, and be qualified to teach, and in a stab unit?

Just because you have done the job for a limited time (yes 6 months I know you have told us) doesnt make you be all and end all.

Who aint been there!
There are courses, just get yourself on it. and work your way up, like everyone else would.
 
#16
Indeed.

Snakey, I did not know you where infantry and certainly did not know you where the Vallon man.

I raise my hat to you.

To the OP - get yourself on the assistant C-IED instructor course asp. Your experience would be very welcome on the course; one of the blokes on mine lost an eye to a RC-IED and so, naturally, it gave some added weight to his input.

Good to see some enthusiasm.
 
#17
the C-IED assistant instructors course is not theatre specific although the majority is aimed at current ops in Afghanistan. Unfortunately the ISPECS are so lame that technically a student only has to do the bare minimum or less to scrape a pass, particularly on the teach backs phase. In view of the fact that the course is designed to help save lives, the bar should be set higher as on my course alone there should have been 2 failures.

Just to bite on the Barma walts bit all our instructors had the relevant operational experience as did the majority of the students with at least 3 being on the receiving end of IED's not necessarily in Afghanistan.
 
#18
It's neither here nor there if people have had relevant experience. It's a MATT (or whatever they are called this week). CT1, the most basic, so it's there as a reminder so that as you progress through further training this builds upon that knowledge.

You could argue your point with any of the MATTS - CBRNE is going to be a little interesting then.
 
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#19
Christ i must be getting old, I can remember when this kind of thing was "Patrol Search" mind you the CIED trg now has the similar fundamentals with better kit/Drills..... Bravo I take it you did the course to become a MATT 9 instructor? Hardly the same training as the lads one of the Brimstone Callsigns is it ? (dofs cap to dingerr)
 
#20
SM

Yes indeed.

Part of the course saw us meeting an RLC EOD team ( apologies if I've misdescribed ) which was pretty interesting. High threat operators are far, far more trained and skilled than billy basic MATT9 instructors ( and pretty ballsy too IMO. )
 

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