TA and Fitness

#1
Dear all,

I have just joined the TA, and am concentrating on getting fit.

My current 1.5 mile run time is 13 mins, which although is good enough to get me in, is still shocking to me!

My question is that as a 36 year old bloke, weighing 15 stone (although I'm not overly fat) who has trained on and off and always been active, what should I aim for in terms of respectable fitness?

Although age wise for joining I am ancient, its something I have always wanted to do. A whole load of life issues got in the way previously, but now I am here I want to give it my all. Paramount to this is obviously being as fit as possible, but what is realistic?

Thanks for your advice.
 
#6
BBear said:
Realistic is 9 min.
At 36 you will be required to do the 1.5 miles in 11:30.

Under 30 you need to be able to do it in 10:30 which would be a good time to aim for. Clearly the fitter you are the better. The standards are minimums.

I'm **** at running , just for the record..... :x
 
#7
EX_STAB said:
BBear said:
Realistic is 9 min.
At 36 you will be required to do the 1.5 miles in 11:30.

Under 30 you need to be able to do it in 10:30 which would be a good time to aim for. Clearly the fitter you are the better. The standards are minimums.

I'm * at running , just for the record..... :x
Yeah I'm pretty crap myself at running, the rest of the strength stuff, and endurance I'm far better at.
 

BBear

LE
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#8
With a fairly decent training programme you should get your time down from 13 min to 9 min in about 2-3 months.
 
#10
11.30 or under is definately do-able. I'm 41 and as a bit of a personal challenge last year I decided to put myself through my own BFT (I know its not called that anymore) Build upto it, interval training/fartlegs etc should build your speed and stamina.

Took me about 3 months to sort myself and managed to drop a stone in weight whilst I was at it! Had to drop the weight cos I also wanted a parachute jump as well for my 40th and the civvie weight limit was 15 St. for a static line jump.

My 1.5 miler was 10.48 if memory serves.
 
#11
EX_STAB said:
BBear said:
Realistic is 9 min.
At 36 you will be required to do the 1.5 miles in 11:30.

Under 30 you need to be able to do it in 10:30 which would be a good time to aim for. Clearly the fitter you are the better. The standards are minimums.

I'm * at running , just for the record..... :x
That sounds reasonable. You won't obviously turn into a racing snake over night and some guys are just not built for speed.

Aim to do sub 10.30, that is the standard that us youngsters are expected to do it in and more than acceptable for an old git like yourself :lol:
 
#12
In my younger days 9 minutes was a strole in the park..now I am 43 I manage around the 10 minute mark. I am a bit overweight for my build but have always been a runner rather than a "strength" type person so have issues in other areas.

I remember the days when we had to do 3 miles in boots and combats...:)
 
#13
BBear said:
With a fairly decent training programme you should get your time down from 13 min to 9 min in about 2-3 months.
Interesting. With a really decent phys programme (Reg CC RMAS) of over a year I was still only able to achieve 9.15 and I was like a bean pole then. So not everyone is built for speed.

However, I've yet to encounter a situation on Ops that requires me to leg it for 1 1/2 miles in sub 10.30. Short bursts, yes, but more about distance stamina for patrolling.
 

BuggerAll

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#14
As the man said you have 11:30 to do it in. You need to aim to be able to do that and the sit-ups and press-ups comfortably. Its no use being able to force yourself around on the day and being completely ruined at the end.

One of the things the PTI's have said to me is that a soldier should to be able to run 6 - 8 miles at a fair lick and not be in bits at the end of it. If you can do that the PFA will also fall into place.
 

BuggerAll

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#16
natotattie said:
TA and fitness?

Sorry that just does not compute. TA and overweight alcoholics does though.
I am currently doing remedial PT with a lot of overweight regular soldiers who are all in their 20's.

Don't let reality get in the way of your prejudices.
 
#17
BuggerAll said:
natotattie said:
TA and fitness?

Sorry that just does not compute. TA and overweight alcoholics does though.
I am currently doing remedial PT with a lot of overweight regular soldiers who are all in their 20's.

Don't let reality get in the way of your prejudices.
Just ignore him, Tattie has some issues with us stabs, cos we're not real soldiers like him! :roll:
 
#18
Back_at_RD said:
BBear said:
With a fairly decent training programme you should get your time down from 13 min to 9 min in about 2-3 months.
Interesting. With a really decent phys programme (Reg CC RMAS) of over a year I was still only able to achieve 9.15 and I was like a bean pole then. So not everyone is built for speed.

However, I've yet to encounter a situation on Ops that requires me to leg it for 1 1/2 miles in sub 10.30. Short bursts, yes, but more about distance stamina for patrolling.
oh there has been and there is! :evil:

as someone said a little while back** - never has the 2 miler been more appropriate than it is now!!

**exact wording might be worng, but nonetheless..
 
#19
BuggerAll said:
As the man said you have 11:30 to do it in. You need to aim to be able to do that and the sit-ups and press-ups comfortably. Its no use being able to force yourself around on the day and being completely ruined at the end.

One of the things the PTI's have said to me is that a soldier should to be able to run 6 - 8 miles at a fair lick and not be in bits at the end of it. If you can do that the PFA will also fall into place.
What would be your definition of "a fair lick"? I ran my first 10k recently (6.1 miles) It had a LOT of hill climbing (3.5 miles) and I did it in 58:39. I struggle to run the 1.5 mile faster than 11:30 though and have been slower at times. My best is 11:02. I'm 40.

One thing that has been suggested (by someone with no knowledge of my running) was that my upper legs aren't muscular enough compared to the rest of me and that I would have problems with running. This was based on seeing a photo. She's a sports physio so I gather she knows what she's talking about.

I invariably feel as though my legs are like lead when running. I have a good recovery rate and good CV though so might this explain it?

I'm thinking of taking up cycling to try to build those muscles up.
 

BuggerAll

LE
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#20
EX_STAB said:
BuggerAll said:
As the man said you have 11:30 to do it in. You need to aim to be able to do that and the sit-ups and press-ups comfortably. Its no use being able to force yourself around on the day and being completely ruined at the end.

One of the things the PTI's have said to me is that a soldier should to be able to run 6 - 8 miles at a fair lick and not be in bits at the end of it. If you can do that the PFA will also fall into place.
What would be your definition of "a fair lick"? I ran my first 10k recently (6.1 miles) It had a LOT of hill climbing (3.5 miles) and I did it in 58:39. I struggle to run the 1.5 mile faster than 11:30 though and have been slower at times. My best is 11:02. I'm 40.

One thing that has been suggested (by someone with no knowledge of my running) was that my upper legs aren't muscular enough compared to the rest of me and that I would have problems with running. This was based on seeing a photo. She's a sports physio so I gather she knows what she's talking about.

I invariably feel as though my legs are like lead when running. I have a good recovery rate and good CV though so might this explain it?

I'm thinking of taking up cycling to try to build those muscles up.
He wasn't suggesting being able to do 6 - 8 miles at PFA pace but being able to keep going at a reasonable jogging pace.

I would recommended anyone with training problems to go and speak to the PTI wallahs.
 
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