System Eng tech or Air Tech?

Discussion in 'REME' started by Kujaroth, May 4, 2006.

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  1. Can anyone please provide advantages and disadvantages of both these please? I have searched alot of these forums for information and also the site, but didn't find too much information about the contrast between the two. Anyone share their wisdom? Thanks alot.
  2. You won't get any objective answers here mate!
    My advice would be go Air Tech if you want an easy life and to spend most of your time in Wattisham. Air "Trades" are for people who don't want to work too hard.
    Of the Tech Trades, Armd Sys Eng is about the closest you'll get to a real tradesman. You will stand less chance of getting bullied if you go ASE, but you'll still be a tech spanker. :)
  3. Air Tech - this is a REME job and could be an Aircraft (Ac) Tech or Avionics (Av) Tech.

    Sys Eng Tech - this is a R Signals job (correct me if I am wrong). Networks, computers, microwaves and satellites.

    It depends on what you want to do? What skills and interests do you have? What qualifications?

  4. It depends on what you want to do? What skills and interests do you have? What qualifications?

    Well my skills are most probably maths and being fairly practical. My interests - Seeing the world. Qualifications - passed all gcses, with A's in ict and p.e, B's in maths and french, C in the rest. Quatre of the way through ND in Engineering (elec/mech)

    Thanks for the reply.
  5. If you were skilled in maths, you would have an A. These are GCSEs - not O Levels.

    Does that mean that you only have a C grade in English? If yes, REME might already be beyond you.

    "Fairly practical" is good but your educational qualifications are marginal.

    "Seeing the world" is an ambition, not an interest.

  6. I am skilled in maths, I chose to go to intermediate in maths because I didn't have the confidence, I've had a distinction in my maths unit for ND Engineering, which is hard and not alot of people get.

    Yeah I had a C in English - so damn ok REME may not be for me

    Ok, my qualifications are marginal. What if I get a merit in ND, will that take me up from being marginal?

    Seeing the world - I suppose it's an ambition but it does interest me, therefore an interest. My other interests within work are electronics principles, maths and ict.

    Thanks for the reply.
  7. Fella no worries on your qualifications, a pass is a pass.

    Sparky8 BSc (2 gcse's, C's the pair of them!)
  8. Yes, that should work in your favour. However, nowhere have you mentioned wanting to work on Aircraft.

    An Ac Tech is a vehicle mechanic in the sky! He repairs aircraft - engines, blades, hydraulics, controls, gearboxes, metal bashing, composites etc.

    An Av Tech repairs the electronics - nav systems, sighting systems, guidance systems, comms etc.

    Both need 3 Grade B GCSEs in Maths, English and one Science, IIRC. Most techs have considerably better qualifications than that.

  9. Not sure if they've tightened things up since I joined but I only had 3 O levels and English was only a D grade. It didn't stop me going through the Tech side of REME and Tiffy etc (maybe it should have some of you might think). As long as you do well in the Army entrance tests, and pass the Maths tests they do at Arborfield you are able to pick and choose any of the electronic trades after BE.
  10. Forever_Blue, you are quite a bit behind the times. When I completed my BE course 14 yrs ago I was top student and had a choice of trade. This is nowhere near what happens now.

    Baby tech starts BE already selected to carry out a specific equipment course relevant to a posting requirement. i.e. posting requirement at Challenger unit, baby tech loaded onto BE course and Challenger 2 course knowing they will be posted to Challenger unit if they pass! Students put in a PPP with their aspirations of equipment they would like to work on (tanks, big shooty things, etc) prior to starting basics and if they are lucky they will get it - if not, then whatever will be available!

    Baby techs are tradeless (supertech) and are simply Technician Electronics, they do not specialise until after class 1 when they will be armoured, artillery or guided weapons. The old ECE, Radar and Tels trades vanished a few years ago.

    Advice for the original poster, the market has been flooded in the past few years with baby techs and they can pick and choose (unlike when myself and others on this thread joined). You would be unlikely to be accepted into REME as a technician with your GCSE grades. There are ways around, get a good NC in Engineering and you will almost certainly pass the first hurdle! Then it's up to you to pass the trade courses!
  11. Well may I add that I had my BARB test etc, and the sargeant there said I am definately elligible for avionics/air tech. I think I may apply for avionics, or either sys tech or specialist operator. Still not sure.
  12. I think you are a bit confused between trades!

    REME Avionics Technicians are the most specialist of the technician trades (and i am NOT one) and generally the top of the tree (best quailifications, etc). Your GCSE grades, as some on here have already said, are not good enough for even a general REME Electronics Technician spot.

    REME Air Technician is a bit closer to the grades you have. Air Techs are basically mechanics (not technicians) who maintain and repair aircraft engines.

    Do not get confused between these trades. The courses are completely different. Avionics courses are much longer than Air Tech and much, much, much more difficult. Basically the difference between a GCSE maths and first year degree level maths (initially, it gets harder)!

    Is your recruiter REME?

    It does not matter, if you decide on any REME technician route, on arriving at Arborfield you will initially be given an aptitude test to assess your suitability for training. The BARB test is only a general recruiting tool. Your suitability will be decided during your initial Arborfield testing. If you are found not suitable they will not waste money attempting to train you (as it cost lots of dosh!)