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184461

*Russian Troll*
Mmmm I don't know. It's probably better that I wait for someone who knows what the f*ck they're on about.
I used encrypted comms 25yrs ago for operational/ security reasons now we're 25 yrs on and I'm expected to believe that multi-million $ Ru FGA on ops don't have secure comms?
You can't operate if everyone and his dog can listen to what you're up to.
Common sense.

Last time I checked you just don't turn the encrypted part to 'clear' either (I've never seen or heard of that option) but then again I'm not a shiny-arse sigs REMF but you'll find many on here that are.
Ask them if they know if state-of-the-art modern Russian FGA use encrypted comms for security reasons.
(You'll get a blank stare but you may be lucky and find a crab)

In regards to encrypted comms they aren't always used. You are living in a conspiracy fantasy world if you believe that open VHF/UHF have not been in daily use. Why do you think that the Russia military are incapable of making errors when using open radio channels? Also consider that not every attempt at establishing secure comms links will be successful due to equipment malfunction or simple operator error.

No doubt Russian COMSEC teams are having a field day after the various cock-ups that have been highlighted. No doubt procedures have been implemented to try and stem such errors but when it comes to comms security people will always mess up.

Nothing remarkable about people with basic receivers covering VHF//UHF intercepting such comms. Why do you even believe that this is not possible? A simple receiver covering such frequency bands can be obtained for about a hundred pounds - even less second hand. All they need to do is link that to a basic antenna to improve reception and use the basic radio scanning software to rapid scan the bands.

You are failing to grasp that humans can and do mess up in regards to COMSEC. Why do you think that the Russian military are incapable of making such COMSEC errors? As I stated earlier no doubt the Russian COMSEC units will be having a field day trying to stem such mistakes and to re-educate personnel.

You also brought up the cameras being dead centre on the targets. Did you not watch the video? Cameras were set up on the hospitals knowing that such facilities were likely to be targeted.
Let's just say you have a hypothetical point (you don't btw).

None of what's been noted by NYT has been verified or evidenced by anybody at all.
There's absolutely no evidence again.
Just like Skripal this scenario has turned into a trust issue.

Anybody here class HMG as 'trustworthy' with an excellent track record in honesty?

At least it keep's all eyes away from this;

 
Mmmm I don't know.
Probably the only correct thing you’ve ever posted
It's probably better that I wait for someone who knows what the f*ck they're on about.
I used encrypted comms 25yrs ago for operational/ security reasons now we're 25 yrs on and I'm expected to believe that multi-million $ Ru FGA on ops don't have secure comms?
You can't operate if everyone and his dog can listen to what you're up to.
Common sense.
No you didn’t. You’ve never served a day of your life in the armed forces ‘Zoot suits’.
Last time I checked you just don't turn the encrypted part to 'clear' either (I've never seen or heard of that option) but then again I'm not a shiny-arse sigs REMF but you'll find many on here that are.
Ask them if they know if state-of-the-art modern Russian FGA use encrypted comms for security reasons.
(You'll get a blank stare but you may be lucky and find a crab)
You mean like the ‘PT’ position on a 117F?
 
You are living in a conspiracy fantasy world if .....
This is of course 118



118 said:
......
Just like Skripal this scenario has turned into a trust issue.
Everything has to be brought back to Skripal ????
118 said:
Anybody here class HMG as 'trustworthy' with an excellent track record in honesty?
.....
Anybody here class Putin as trustworthy with an excellent track record in lies/oppression/corruption/murder ?
 

TEEJ

Old-Salt
Mmmm I don't know. It's probably better that I wait for someone who knows what the f*ck they're on about.
I used encrypted comms 25yrs ago for operational/ security reasons now we're 25 yrs on and I'm expected to believe that multi-million $ Ru FGA on ops don't have secure comms?
You can't operate if everyone and his dog can listen to what you're up to.
Common sense.
Why do you believe that secure comms are used on every mission? You really are clueless if you believe that people don't mess up in regards to COMSEC. Of course they will have the ability to utilise secure comms but that doesn't negate the fact that secure comms can not always be established. Now obviously to you that would mean the mission would be aborted and that aircraft return to base. You are failing to understand that when the pressure is on to get the mission/targets taken out then COMSEC can and does go out the window. To that controller and the aircrew the target is a legitimate target that requires to be worked regardless of what comms net is in use in order to get the job done.
 

Slime

LE
It looks like the shitposter is making progress.

He has said he’s out of date on comms, doesn’t know what features are on radios, and further evidenced his cluelessness by making an incorrect guess about current radio use.

On a positive, he did at least admit he didn’t know, as picked up by Scaleyback.

I see the shitposter is trying to get round the sweat filter in CA too.

Not by being a shitposter, which is the correct term for his posting style, but by adding * in order to swear, how childish.
 
The partial US withdrawal from NE Syria appears to be over. 600 left from 1,000 +/- deployed. Still looking for other allies/ NATO members to help out and the repositioning allows rapid reinforcement as required:
"It will be relatively static around that number. But if we see things happen ... I can dial up a little bit,” Esper said late on Wednesday during a flight back from the NATO summit on the outskirts of London.

Esper also didn’t rule out being able to reduce U.S. troop levels in Syria further if European allies contributed to the Syria mission.
Not sure who may be stepping up, but there was talk a month or so ago of European troops (in addition to the French) helping out:
“The coalition is talking a lot again. We could see some allies want to volunteer troops,” Esper said, without suggesting any new contribution was imminent.

“If an allied country, a NATO country, decided to give us 50 people, I might be able to turn off 50 people.”
Note: Inherent Resolve has the following participants. Some obviously providing more troops and capability than others: Coalition

No movement on S-400. However, Erdogan's stated aim to stop a NATO plan on the Baltic's didn't take place:
Still, after lobbying by NATO allies, including the United States, Erdogan backed off from a threat to block defense plans for the Baltic states and Poland unless allies declared Kurdish fighters in Syria terrorists.


“I think it was a positive move forward,” Esper said, of the change in position by Turkey.
 
Trump's announcements about taking Syria's oil is raising some eyebrows.
Trump's Syria policy now appears to be — quite literally — 'blood for oil'
US president Trump said that the only soldiers the US has in Syria are the ones that are "keeping the oil", and that now that the US has they oil they "can do with the oil what we want."
"Right now, the only soldiers we have in that area are essentially the soldiers that are keeping the oil," the U.S. president said of the redefined role of American troops in eastern Syria. "So we have the oil. And we can do with the oil what we want."
He repeated that that US has taken Syria's oil, and that they should do it elsewhere as well.
"We've taken the oil. I've taken the oil. We should have done it in other locations where we were. I can name four of them right now," said Trump. (He did not name the other countries.)
This is not helping much with US diplomacy, given that the US has spent so much time declaring that the US wasn't after other countries' oil, but rather just wished to support freedom and democracy.
At the very least, Trump's repeated comments have given fresh ammunition to critics who've long claimed U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is more about controlling the oil than supporting freedom and democracy.
An expert in the law of armed conflict noted that US allies should be paying attention to this, as it calls into question US intentions.
Stuart Hendin, a lawyer and expert in the law of armed conflict, who has instructed United Nations peacekeepers, said if U.S. allies — Canada included — weren't paying attention, they should have been.

Trump's remarks present a conundrum for U.S. allies in that they call into question U.S. policy aims and intentions.

"Why would one partner want to be with a force when you really never know [what] the political whims are going to be?" Hendin asked.

"What [the remarks] create is a fear and a potential lack of respect. The military ethos is that you have to have the respect and absolute trust of the people you're in the field with."
Lower level US officials were scurrying about behind the scenes trying to massage the statements into something more acceptable for the benefit of the news media, but these sort of events can only further damage US credibility amongst its allies.
 
Meanwhile the ‘Flying Ginsu’ seems to be busy. the Hellfire with blades used again, nails three.
A very apt way of dealing with top terrorists, imminently suitable. A sort of “You cut throats, we chop you to pieces!!” Definitely language they understand.

Some time ago one nailed, or to be precise, diced Abu Khayr al-Masri, deputy leader of Al-Qaeda.

Then more recently at Atmeh in Syria's Idlib province sliced and diced two individuals, one possibly from the Hayat Tahrir Al Sham group.

A second only a few days later at Afrin has claimed three supposedly Turkey-backed .Ahrar al-Sham group including a senior commander.

Little collateral, very quiet, death from above, a perfect 1,2,3. Great going keep it up.

Oh and if you have a few of them bugging out in different directions, you just use one of these.
 
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Russia has deployed its 14th veto on Syria, supported by China. 4 crossings are in place to allow humanitarian aid into Syria. These crossings are renewed by the UNSC every year. Russia wanted to drop it to two.

The German, Belgian and Kuwaiti Resolution looked to renew it again for a further 12 months and even dropped the Jordanian crossing to get Russia on side. Russia submitted their own proposal for two crossings for six months. The vetoes were required as everyone else on the UNSC agreed with the renewal. The Russian proposal only received 5 votes, not enough to be passed. The crossings end on 10/01/2020.

US Ambo Craft called it ‘reckless, irresponsible and cruel’ after the vetoes were deployed:
U.S. Ambassador Kelly Craft told the council after the Russia and China vetoes that she was in a state of shock, saying the consequences “will be disastrous.” She described Russia and China’s opposition as “reckless, irresponsible and cruel.”
The Russian Ambo said it’s not their fault:
“Who won today? Nobody. Who lost? The Syrian people,” Russia’s U.N. ambassador, Vassily Nebenzia, told the council. He had argued that the humanitarian situation in Syria has improved dramatically and that the council had to recognize that change.

“Do not attempt to shift blame for this on us,” he said.
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
Russia has deployed its 14th veto on Syria, supported by China. 4 crossings are in place to allow humanitarian aid into Syria. These crossings are renewed by the UNSC every year. Russia wanted to drop it to two.

The German, Belgian and Kuwaiti Resolution looked to renew it again for a further 12 months and even dropped the Jordanian crossing to get Russia on side. Russia submitted their own proposal for two crossings for six months. The vetoes were required as everyone else on the UNSC agreed with the renewal. The Russian proposal only received 5 votes, not enough to be passed. The crossings end on 10/01/2020.

US Ambo Craft called it ‘reckless, irresponsible and cruel’ after the vetoes were deployed:


The Russian Ambo said it’s not their fault:
And there's me thinking that you'd be posting about much more serious things....
Just joking.


Wasn't this the event that almost led to a full-on Syrian invasion by FUKUS?

You did notice FUKUS has been caught lying again?

Why aren't you talking about this huge story of yet another western-funded false-flag?


I hope you found the above video interesting and enlightening?

Any reason you've made a conscious (or subconscious) decision to talk about comparatively petty crap rather than what-should-be the massivest story not to actually be reported on?
 
And there's me thinking that you'd be posting about much more serious things....
Just joking.
14th veto on Syria is important imho. Using a veto signifies little support in the UNSC. 14 implies it’s constant

Wasn't this the event that almost led to a full-on Syrian invasion by FUKUS?

You did notice FUKUS has been caught lying again?
FrUKUS haven’t invaded. They degraded Assad’s (allegedly none existent) CW programme that Russia defends with their vetoes.
Why aren't you talking about this huge story of yet another western-funded false-flag?


I hope you found the above video interesting and enlightening?
Your deliberate lies and obfuscation speak volumes.
Any reason you've made a conscious (or subconscious) decision to talk about comparatively petty crap rather than what-should-be the massivest story not to actually be reported on?
Why isn’t it reported on? Is it a conspiracy? Or seen for exactly what it is? More Russian lies and disinformation,
 

Slime

LE
Just when things were looking like a sensible adult thread the broken brained Rusisan troll has to appear and make himself look an idiot again.

At least he is still getting quotes or replies so his wibbling will pay off for him.
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
14th veto on Syria is important imho. Using a veto signifies little support in the UNSC. 14 implies it’s constant
Hold your horses.
Bombing and ground-invading yet another non-compliant ME country based on knowingly duff int it comes in a bit higher than just another veto.
You know this.
You just can't admit that I was right all along and would rather stay away from the troublesome subject all together.
Remember you were loving it, even making up stories that Matthis had confirmed the use of CW in Douma.

Don't fret, you're not alone.
OPCW and FUKUS lying to facilitate an illegal act-of-war on an innocent nation-state didn't make it on to media/MSM or the arrse forum either.

It's as though if it isn't talked about, it never happened.
Spooky.

And as for the acclaimed Bellingshite that we know so well from the Sergei Skripal exercise?
How did they get on with the now debunked Douma event?


It appears that Ballbag may not be telling the truth with all things Syria.
What should that say about the rest of their gov-funded projects?

Like the Skripal fit-up.
 
Hold your horses.
Bombing and ground-invading yet another non-compliant ME country based on knowingly duff int it comes in a bit higher than just another veto.
You know this.
You just can't admit that I was right all along and would rather stay away from the troublesome subject all together.
Remember you were loving it, even making up stories that Matthis had confirmed the use of CW in Douma.

Don't fret, you're not alone.
OPCW and FUKUS lying to facilitate an illegal act-of-war on an innocent nation-state didn't make it on to media/MSM or the arrse forum either.

It's as though if it isn't talked about, it never happened.
Spooky.

And as for the acclaimed Bellingshite that we know so well from the Sergei Skripal exercise?
How did they get on with the now debunked Douma event?


It appears that Ballbag may not be telling the truth with all things Syria.
What should that say about the rest of their gov-funded projects?

Like the Skripal fit-up.
You haven’t been right in anything, other than your admissions you ‘don’t know’

FrUKUS haven’t invaded, other than in accordance with the UNSC Resolution, to defeat IS as Assad’s forces ran away

FrUKUS degraded Assad’s (according to you) none existent CW manufacturing facilities.

Your inability to even say Bellingcat speaks volumes as does your propensity to push the Russian narrative.
 
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Hold your horses.
Bombing and ground-invading yet another non-compliant ME country based on knowingly duff int it comes in a bit higher than just another veto.
You know this.
You just can't admit that I was right all along and would rather stay away from the troublesome subject all together.
Remember you were loving it, even making up stories that Matthis had confirmed the use of CW in Douma.

Don't fret, you're not alone.
OPCW and FUKUS lying to facilitate an illegal act-of-war on an innocent nation-state didn't make it on to media/MSM or the arrse forum either.

It's as though if it isn't talked about, it never happened.
Spooky.

And as for the acclaimed Bellingshite that we know so well from the Sergei Skripal exercise?
How did they get on with the now debunked Douma event?


It appears that Ballbag may not be telling the truth with all things Syria.
What should that say about the rest of their gov-funded projects?

Like the Skripal fit-up.
Bellingcat bellingcat belligcat

Don’t worry about silence on the Skripal case, your friend John Helmer is continuing to post, even if he has to scrape the barrel on non-news
 
The US base in Raqqa, the former home of the IS Caliphate, left by US forces a few days ago, is now under the control of Russian MilPol according to TASS:
Russian military police have taken control of a base near the Syrian city of Raqqa that was controlled by U.S. forces until a few days ago, the TASS news agency reported on Thursday.

Russian forces entered the nearby city of Raqqa, the former de facto capital of the Islamic State caliphate, earlier this month as Moscow rushed to fill a vacuum created by U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to pull troops from northern Syria.
 
Fist fight between US and Russian soldiers? It is something new.
American and Russian troops brawled in Tell Tamer in northeast Syria on Wednesday, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

Russian forces were present in the area at the same time as US troops and when the two parties met it devolved into a fist fight, "due to their presence in the same area," according to SOHR.
It is the primary source
According to the sources; a number of U.S. soldiers roamed in “Tal Tamr” town escorted with a team including a translator. The team had a task of knowing the locals’ opinions about the U.S. presence in the area. The sources confirmed that all locals described the U.S. forces as traitors.

They also toured in areas where the Arabs of Al-Sharabin tribe and Kurds are located. It was coincided with the presence of Russian soldiers in the same area, in which a hassle ignited and developed to hand-to-hand fighting.
 
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Fist fight between US and Russian soldiers? It is something new.

It is the primary source
A bit different to the last time when they attempted to kill each other.





Plenty of other interesting stories by SOHR


 

184461

*Russian Troll*
Fist fight between US and Russian soldiers? It is something new.

It is the primary source
This is a made-up story.
Can you imagine the amount of weaponry/ammunition and testosterone on-hand for this 'event'?
Then factor in lots of alpha-males, all in the same place....
All coming together for a fist-fight?
And nobody did anything stupid and nothing stupid or unintentional happened?
With all those egos running around?


Plenty of other interesting stories by SOHR
SOHR is a one-man, UK int asset based in Cov and has done FUKUS's bidding since day 1.
Rami Abdulrahman is a one-man uk int propaganda unit and has been shown to make up anti-Ru/Sy 'int' whenever made-up 'int' is needed.

Lucky ol' Rami seem's to have fallen on his feet with this sweet gig.


He's a bit quiet about this OPCW/ DOUMA FABRICATION, but then everyone is.
Have you seen this on the news as I haven't.

Do you or don't you think that you are worthy of this information and through your own media and press?


So remind me, why are you posting stuff about non-existent punch ups when there's much bigger stories to discuss?.....

1. The UK, US and France, three major NATO members, have been exposed attacking another nation-state based on a lie that they created and perpetuated about some BS CW attack.
This event was supposed to have let FUKUS get on the ground and do an 'Afghan, Iraq, Libya' on Syria.

For some unknown reason (probably a Russian reason?) the momentum for a full-on invasion was lost and it never happened on a large scale although there are still bags of Brits, Septics and Frogs illegally hanging out in Syria.... Mostly where the natural resources are...


2. The OPCW (who are supposed to be neutral) have been caught playing pro-NATO politicised games and lied about Douma thus legitimising FUKUS's illegal act of aggression vs Syria (and coincidentally Ru).


This is all just part of the anti- anyone-who-gets-in-our-way plan.
Especially when it comes to Russia.


Everything has to be brought back to Skripal ????
Just look at who they blamed for the manufacture of 'the world's most deadly nerve agent ever' that was supposedly used in Salisbury by the Russian state.
Right after the event when they were fully aware that they had lied about the CW attack the talking heads were reporting that Syria manufactured this highly-lethal nerve agent (that didn't even work) that the Russians so deviously used in Salisbury.

Although as you all know there is still zero proof to qualify ukgov's POV.
Not one shred of incontrovertible evidence actually exists almost 2yrs later.
Indeed what's the latest on that front? There's hardly anything from gov/plod/media.
Apparently the gov's case is falling apart everyday.

A British Ministry of Defence document, issued on March 12 but unnoticed since then, reports the ministry has searched its files and records of the blood sampling and testing for Novichok in the blood of Sergei and Yulia Skripal, but “failed to locate any information that provides the exact time that the samples were collected.”

The Ministry of Defence (MOD) is the parent organization for the Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL), the UK’s chemical warfare centre at Porton Down. Porton Down, as the laboratory is usually known, is the source of British evidence that Novichok was detected in the bloodstreams of the two Skripals.

If the Defence Ministry is telling the truth, its admission that it “failed to locate” the required blood specimen logs means there is no legal chain of custody for the evidence the British Government has publicly alleged, identifying a Russian nerve agent called Novichok, and Russian military personnel and the Kremlin as responsible for attacking the Skripals in Salisbury on March 4, 2018.
Without this chain of custody, no British court can lawfully admit the prosecution’s evidence to support the government charges in the Skripal case.
The Wiltshire coroner’s inquest into the death of Dawn Sturgess, also alleged to have resulted from a Russian Novichok attack, will be unable, lawfully, to admit the alleged evidence.

If the ministry is lying in its March 12, 2019, document, this demonstrates the collapse of the British government’s Novichok narrative into evidence of a political frame-up.

The MOD official, who signed the document as Mrs S. Gardiner, head of the ministry’s Information Rights Team, was asked to clarify her report. She has refused to reply.

But FUKUS were still happy to chance their luck and lump in Douma and Skripal together in order to get some rounds downrange with the Syrians and Russians.

Hands up who thinks the politicians who instrument wars should be the first over the LOD?

And then we have this from an ex-Ru spook who doesn't have a pension plan with ukgov (honest).
Really pushing the Russian/Syrian 'axis of evil' link.


If this doesn't indicate to the hardest of heads that they've been sold down the river by gov/int then nothing will.

Considering the OPCW are being used as the SMEs with the Salisbury fabrication after they've already been caught purposefully lying to facilitate regime-change in Syria it looks like OPCW's days are numbered to the few that know about what they've done.


That would be why the story is not getting any airtime at all on MSM but doesn't explain why complete irrelevance is being posted on this thread rather than the hugely relevant story that......

UK lied about CW in Syria and committed an illegal act-of-war based upon those lies.
Fr lied about CW in Syria and committed an illegal act-of-war based upon those lies.
US lied about CW in Syria and committed an illegal act-of-war based upon those lies.
OPCW lied about CW in Syria in order to facilitate NATO war crimes.

Scratching my head as to why this isn't being talked about everywhere, all the time.
It really shows the omnipotence of the system when it wants to shut a story down, it does.
 
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Scratching my head as to why this isn't being talked about everywhere, all the time.
It really shows the omnipotence of the system when it wants to shut a story down, it does.
And yet nobody has silenced you or any of the conspiracy forums that make the same claims

Why its almost as if no one is being silenced - its just that outside of a few individuals such theories aren't considered plausible.

Shhh must go I hear Aircraft

Theres a couple of planes that circle over my house nearly every day sometimes clearly military sometimes civvy but with no markings and the aircraft looks like nothing any airline uses** - Is the French government is spying on me

**This sentence is true
 

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