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So, logically, this means the FUKUS coalition should now be up for war-crimes (again) as they bombed an innocent country without even attempting to hold an independent investigation?

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What exactly does this say about the level of duplicity within western-media?

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'Obscene masquerade': Russia criticised over Douma chemical attack denial
Russia hit for 'obscene masquerade' for bringing Douma residents to OPCW to claim gas attack was staged | The Japan Times

I wonder if Dalati's twet will be headline news on all international media platforms in the morning?
 
So, logically, this means the FUKUS coalition should now be up for war-crimes (again) as they bombed an innocent country without even attempting to hold an independent investigation?

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What exactly does this say about the level of duplicity within western-media?

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'Obscene masquerade': Russia criticised over Douma chemical attack denial
Russia hit for 'obscene masquerade' for bringing Douma residents to OPCW to claim gas attack was staged | The Japan Times

I wonder if Dalati's twet will be headline news on all international media platforms in the morning?
What is it OPCW found again?
 

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What is it OPCW found again?
Remind us.

LOL


6 JULY 2018
OPCW designated labs conducted analysis of prioritised samples.
The results show that no organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties.
Along with explosive residues, various chlorinated organic chemicals were found in samples from two sites, for which there is full chain of custody.
Work by the team to establish the significance of these results is on-going.
The FFM team will continue its work to draw final conclusions.

OPCW Issues Fact-Finding Mission Reports on Chemical Weapons Use Allegations in Douma, Syria in 2018 and in Al-Hamadaniya and Karm Al-Tarrab in 2016

In the interim between the event and the OPCW team getting on the ground the increasingly-losing western backed jihadis wouldn't have had the opportunity to pour a little chlorine around to set the scene.
They never do that would they?

Chemical weapons in urban areas usually result in mass casualties and deaths, especially children, don't they?
Except in the case of Douma.

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The 11-year-old boy told assembled media that he was with his mother in the basement of a building in Douma when they were suddenly told to rush to the hospital.

"They started pouring water on me at the hospital. I don't know why," he said.

The boy's statement replicates a similar account he gave to Russian state television in Syria last week. In a report on Russia Today his father said it was water that caused his son to rub his eyes.

"I was very surprised and asked what had happened, why my son's eyes were red. I found out that it was water, but it was cold," his father said.


"He could have got sick, he was undressed."

What did Robert Fisk say?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...failure-to-find-signs-of-gas-attack-fx7f3fs2r
Robert Fisk’s Douma Report Rips Away Excuses for Air Strike on Syria

What did Uli Gack say?
Germany's Largest Public TV News Broadcaster: Syria Chemical Attack "Most Likely Staged"
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Ah, but it must be true because we saw it on TV when an 'intrepid' CNN reporter sniffed a heavily-contaminated item that had been in Douma during the event.
The reporter was not harmed in the production of this sketch in case you were worried for her safety.
Neither were the various small children milling around with their toys in the contaminated bag.

 
Remind us.

LOL


6 JULY 2018
OPCW designated labs conducted analysis of prioritised samples.
The results show that no organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties.
Along with explosive residues, various chlorinated organic chemicals were found in samples from two sites, for which there is full chain of custody.
Work by the team to establish the significance of these results is on-going.
The FFM team will continue its work to draw final conclusions.

OPCW Issues Fact-Finding Mission Reports on Chemical Weapons Use Allegations in Douma, Syria in 2018 and in Al-Hamadaniya and Karm Al-Tarrab in 2016

In the interim between the event and the OPCW team getting on the ground the increasingly-losing western backed jihadis wouldn't have had the opportunity to pour a little chlorine around to set the scene.
They never do that would they?

Chemical weapons in urban areas usually result in mass casualties and deaths, especially children, don't they?
Except in the case of Douma.

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The 11-year-old boy told assembled media that he was with his mother in the basement of a building in Douma when they were suddenly told to rush to the hospital.

"They started pouring water on me at the hospital. I don't know why," he said.

The boy's statement replicates a similar account he gave to Russian state television in Syria last week. In a report on Russia Today his father said it was water that caused his son to rub his eyes.

"I was very surprised and asked what had happened, why my son's eyes were red. I found out that it was water, but it was cold," his father said.

"He could have got sick, he was undressed."

What did Robert Fisk say?
Critics leap on reporter Robert Fisk’s failure to find signs of gas attack
Robert Fisk’s Douma Report Rips Away Excuses for Air Strike on Syria

What did Uli Gack say?
Germany's Largest Public TV News Broadcaster: Syria Chemical Attack "Most Likely Staged"
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Ah, but it must be true because we saw it on TV when an 'intrepid' CNN reporter sniffed a heavily-contaminated item that had been in Douma during the event.
The reporter was not harmed in the production of this sketch in case you were worried for her safety.
Neither were the various small children milling around with their toys in the contaminated bag.

https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/S_series/2018/en/s-1645-2018_e_.pdf
That’s all you needed to say, from the the two locations where the cylinders were found:
various chlorinated organic chemicals were found in samples from two sites
 

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The Americans are continuing to try to apply pressure to western countries to take in the prisoners currently held by US allies in Syria.
Hundreds of ISIS fighters held in Syria are a 'time bomb,' U.S.-backed forces say | CBC News
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday European countries must do more to take them back or "we will be forced to release them."
However, European governments are still resisting this. There is no guaranty that evidence could be found to hold and prosecute these people, and the Europeans don't want to simply turn them loose in Europe, which is what would happen without legal evidence.
But European countries say there is no simple solution. Fighters must be vetted and prosecuted if they return.

"It is clearly not as easy as what has been put forward in the United States," German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said on Monday ahead of a Brussels meeting with EU counterparts. "These people could only then come to Germany if we can ensure they are immediately put in custody. It's not clear to me how all that can be guaranteed."
The French justice minister has given a clear "no", and said they are not changing policy to suit new US withdrawal plans.
"At this stage France is not responding to [Trump's] demands," French Justice Minister Nicole Belloubet told France 2 television. "There is a new geo-political context, with the U.S. withdrawal. For the time being we are not changing our policy."
Austria's foreign minister called Trump's demands incomprehensible.
"We have all done everything in our power to lock these people up. This announcement from Trump, I cannot comprehend," Austria's Foreign Minister Karin Kneissel said in Brussels.
Of an estimated 5,000 Europeans in Syria, about 1,500 have already returned.
Of more than 5,000 Europeans — most from Britain, France, Germany and Belgium — who went to fight in Syria and Iraq, some 1,500 have returned, according to police agency Europol.
 
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A new study confirms that before Obama's 'red line' moment there were NO CW used in Syria..

Instead of deterring chemical weapons the 'red line' provided an incentive for some to use them or at least
give the impression that they had been used.

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You may recall how the Syrian gov was accused, always without proof, of using CW always on the eve of peace talks and haven't profited from their use once.




70 Dead???
Where did the reports come from?


Reputable sources on the ground that passed even a tiny bit of scrutiny?




Why is this Riam Dalati being ignored by the media?
One guess.....


 

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A new study confirms that before Obama's 'red line' moment there were NO CW used in Syria..

Instead of deterring chemical weapons the 'red line' provided an incentive for some to use them or at least
give the impression that they had been used.

You may recall how the Syrian gov was accused, always without proof, of using CW always on the eve of peace talks and haven't profited from their use once.




70 Dead???
Where did the reports come from?


Reputable sources on the ground that passed even a tiny bit of scrutiny?




Why is this Riam Dalati being ignored by the media?
One guess.....


Go post your conspiraloon bolleaux on M#msnet.
 

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Go post your conspiraloon bolleaux on M#msnet.
And by that you mean information that wouldn't be helpful to western intentions towards a foreign sovereign gov that has all been based on lies and fabrication since day1?

I thought that was what you meant. lol

just type what you see, Trigger.
 
Further to previous stories on the US demanding that European countries retrieve their citizens who have been captured while fighting for IS in Syria, the US has decided that the same rule doesn't apply to themselves.
Pompeo says Alabama woman who joined ISIS can't return to U.S. | CBC News
A woman who was born in the US and left there to go to Syria and join IS will not be allowed to return to the US because the American government has declared her to be no longer a US citizen.
U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says an Alabama woman who left home to join ISIS in Syria is not a U.S. citizen and will not be allowed to return to the United States.
In a brief statement that gave no details as to how the determination was reached, Pompeo said Hoda Muthana, who said she made a mistake in joining the group and now wants to return with her 18-month-old son, has no "legal basis" to claim American citizenship.
"Ms. Hoda Muthana is not a U.S. citizen and will not be admitted into the United States," Pompeo said. "She does not have any legal basis, no valid U.S. passport, no right to a passport nor any visa to travel to the United States."
The US are saying she isn't a US citizen despite being born in the US because her father was a diplomat. Under a provision of US law that would be correct. However, her lawyer said that her father was no longer a diplomat at the time of her birth in the US so that exception does not apply.
An attorney for the woman's family, Hassan Shibly, said the administration's position is based on a "complicated" interpretation of the law involving her father.
"They're claiming her dad was a diplomat when she was born, which, in fact, he wasn't," Shibly told The Associated Press.
"She was born in Hackensack, N.J., in October 1994, months after her father stopped being a diplomat," he said in a statement to CBC News. "The Trump administration continues its attempts to wrongfully strip citizens of their citizenship."
She did have a US passport, which are only issued to citizens.
Muthana's case is unusual, if not unprecedented in that she once held a U.S. passport. Passports are only issued to citizens by birth or naturalization, according to Seamus Hughes, the deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University, who has studied the phenomenon of foreign Islamic State fighters and families.
 
It's almost as if all those giddy videos from 2014 where jihadis gave baya to the Caliph, burned their passports, condemned the West, said they would rather become martyrs than leave the caliphate and invited the world to fight them are a good example of why making decisions on captogen isn't a good idea.
 
Not quite pulling out...
 
It's almost as if all those giddy videos from 2014 where jihadis gave baya to the Caliph, burned their passports, condemned the West, said they would rather become martyrs than leave the caliphate and invited the world to fight them are a good example of why making decisions on captogen isn't a good idea.
Check your PMs :)
 
France's Macron welcomes U.S. reversal on keeping troops in Syria | Reuters
Okay, all 2,000 US troops were going, then they weren't, then they were. Then it was 200 to remain. Now it looks like 400 will remain. Presumably some in the SDF controlled areas and some down in al Tanf where there are FSA supported by the US over the MSR and covering a large refugee camp. Whatever the numbers, Macron supports the US staying, it being the biggest by far coalition partner:
“On the U.S. decision, I can only but welcome this choice,” Macron told a news conference with his Iraqi counterpart Barham Salih. “The U.S. decision is a good thing. We will continue to operate in the region within the coalition.”
 
Syrian president Assad visited Iran to thank them for their support in the civil war.
Syria's President Bashar al-Assad meets Iran's leader in rare foreign visit | CBC News
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad visited Iran and met with officials there on a rare trip abroad in which he thanked the Islamic Republic for its support throughout Syria's conflict, official news agencies in Syria and Iran said.
This is the first time Assad has gone anywhere outside Syria other than Russia since the start of the civil war.
Assad met with the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Hassan Rouhani on the trip — the first time he has travelled anywhere other than Russia since the Syrian civil war erupted nearly eight years ago.
In a news release Iran rejected the American plan to carve out a buffer zone territory in Syria.
Iran's semi-official Fars news agency said Khamenei told the visiting Assad that "the buffer zone that Americans are after in Syria is among dangerous plots that should be rejected," and that the U.S. plan to maintain a presence in Syria near the Iraqi border "is another sample of their designs."
 

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